Football Players Stipends

[RonJohn]

How in the world did the NCAA not expect abuse by certain programs and decide not to have any oversight of this?

The stipend is based on the difference between the value of the scholarship and the total cost of attendance. The COA is determined by the financial aid offices, not the athletic departments. IF a school changes the COA to give more money to athletes, they also affect the financial obligations of ALL students who apply for federal aid or student loans. That isn't to say that none do or will, but I think it would be possible for the financial aid office personnel to be subject to federal prosecution for falsifying information if they did. Neither the NCAA, nor the P5 have oversight of the COA calculation, but the Department of Education does.

For GT, you can find the COA at:

https://www.finaid.gatech.edu/current-cost-overview

Flea said that the amount was about 1800. The amount above: Tuition, Fees, Books, Housing, Meals(Which are all included in the scholarship), is $2,000.

 

[awbuzz]

How in the world did the NCAA not expect abuse by certain programs and decide not to have any oversight of this?

NCAA had to figure a way to further tip the scales...

 

[GTJackets]

How in the world did the NCAA not expect abuse by certain programs and decide not to have any oversight of this?

I love rhetorical questions. This is rhetorical, right?

 

[AE 87]

The stipend is based on the difference between the value of the scholarship and the total cost of attendance. The COA is determined by the financial aid offices, not the athletic departments. IF a school changes the COA to give more money to athletes, they also affect the financial obligations of ALL students who apply for federal aid or student loans. That isn't to say that none do or will, but I think it would be possible for the financial aid office personnel to be subject to federal prosecution for falsifying information if they did. Neither the NCAA, nor the P5 have oversight of the COA calculation, but the Department of Education does.

For GT, you can find the COA at:

https://www.finaid.gatech.edu/current-cost-overview

Flea said that the amount was about 1800. The amount above: Tuition, Fees, Books, Housing, Meals(Which are all included in the scholarship), is $2,000.

Here are some numbers for comparison:
Clemson: http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1463
Georgia Tech: http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1478

Books and Supplies apparently cost $500 more there and other expenses are higher by $1000.00.

 

[RonJohn]

Here are some numbers for comparison:
Clemson: http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1463
Georgia Tech: http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1478

Books and Supplies apparently cost $500 more there and other expenses are higher by $1000.00.

You can find information for most schools at the site you posted. The point I was trying to make is that this calculation was in place for many years and was calculated for federal financial aid reasons. The P5 decided to use this calculation as the method of increasing the scholarships to the total cost of attendance. This number was not invented by football programs.

Alabama and Georgia did raise their numbers shortly after the stipends were approved. Most of the analysis I read was not definitive on the affects that raising the federally mandated COA numbers would have on the general student population, but most of the affects are negative. UGA and UA both have enrollments of about 36,150. So, those "schools" decided to harm up to 36,000 actual students in order to "help" their football program. At some point the adults need to step up and return higher education to its actual purpose.

 

[AE 87]

You can find information for most schools at the site you posted. The point I was trying to make is that this calculation was in place for many years and was calculated for federal financial aid reasons. The P5 decided to use this calculation as the method of increasing the scholarships to the total cost of attendance. This number was not invented by football programs.

Alabama and Georgia did raise their numbers shortly after the stipends were approved. Most of the analysis I read was not definitive on the affects that raising the federally mandated COA numbers would have on the general student population, but most of the affects are negative. UGA and UA both have enrollments of about 36,150. So, those "schools" decided to harm up to 36,000 actual students in order to "help" their football program. At some point the adults need to step up and return higher education to its actual purpose.

Right (see my earlier post in this thread, #11).