And that’s why this talk of the Alliance is just silliness. They won’t be able to balance the money amongst themselves let alone keep their teams from going to the SEC. The Alliance is doomed to fail before it even starts.
Well the only way to rise up is to get better players and pay for better coaches. The high end players will go to the SEC even more so than they do now if it’s a clear break with two different systems. And the west coast and Mich, Mich St, and Penn State won’t rise again to elite. They simply do not have the players to recruit from. Maybe USC, but the problem those west coast schools have is they are run by people who are not willing to invest the money into infrastructure or coaches. Not to be political, but those schools admins would be fine with no sports. College football is becoming a regional sport which is why the southern schools in the SEC and ACC led the charge to have a season last year. Schools like Michigan, Ohio State, and Oregon are the outliers and I can see all three jumping to the SEC if a break happens. The best solution would be if the Big bowed up and started grabbing up southern teams like GT, Clemson, FSU, Miami, VT, etc to form a 2nd super conference. But they won’t because they are stuck in a mindset from 40 years ago.
So to paraphrase another poster on this thread, the SEC is having a hissy fit, acting like a bunch cry babies.Laying things out from an alliance perspective?
Clemson football: SEC is big mad over ‘The Alliance’
Clemson football fans should relish in the fact that the SEC is extremely upset at the other conferences for not bowing down to its demands.rubbingtherock.com
If the ACC wants to enter into a deal with the SEC instead of the B1G/PAC-12 then the terms begin with evening out the money and no poaching teams from each other. Otherwise they can piss off and side up with the B1G and Pac-12. The alliance could set their own playoff up, put it on their own networks and make a ton of money. People will pay to watch Clemson, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, USC, etc... in a playoff. If the SEC wants to isolate itself, then let them.
This pretty much sums it up. Some seem to think the SEC can just buy whoever they want. It doesn't really work that way. In all honesty, after the OU, TX deal, there aren't many other options outside of the remaining Big 12 teams. They can't afford ACC teams for the time being and I seriously doubt they would get any interest from Big 10 or Pac 12 teams.
We have heard your drivel before. What was it first? SEC POWERRRRR!!!!!, then SEC SPEEEEEEED!!!!!!!, now it is SEC!!!!!!, SEC!!!!!!!, SEC!!!!!!!!. Ohio State has some players, but they don't have any SEC PLAYERS!!!!!. A walkon from an SEC team would be a starter in any other conference. If a Big12 team joins the SEC, they would be lucky to win 5 games a year against an SEC SCHEDULE!!!!!!!!
From what I’ve seen, the buyout is three years of conference distributions, or about $100 million.
It was just off the top of my head, so I was probably thinking about old numbers. I think that is what it was when Maryland left, so that is probably where I remembered it. If the buyout is now $100 million. Then the total buyout including media rights would be over $550 million. That is a lot of money.
I still remember watching Finebaum after Clemson destroyed Alabama. About the only time I ever deliberately tuned into him. We went from shocked and speechless for the first several hours to eventually saying Clemson was not a true champion yet because they had not learned how to win yet -after Clemson beating Alabama twice.
The other thing that the gumps don’t realize is that people can make a choice with their eyeballs and fingers. If people around the country boycott the SEC and no longer watch(eyeballs) and go off on the SEC on social media(fingers) about how they have ruined college athletics /football then the powers that be (ESPN) will have to come up with something different. It happened with the Ultra Premier football league in Europe. If you lose 75% of the fans that watch, what do they have? Bupkus
Well said
You are ridiculous and lack the ability to think outside your own thoughts. If you refuse to see how dominant the SEC is in football then you probably also believe UGA’s engineering programs are on par with GT’s. And while life doesn’t evolve around football, on a football message board it pretty much does.
You mention a really interesting point to me about this discussion being couched in the football forum. I don’t know what kind of crossover we have between boards. I spend 75% of my time in either football or basketball when only one of those are in season and probably split the time between those two in the off season or overlap.
This all day long, it is way too expensive to poach schools from the ACC or Big, not sure about the .PAC but I imagine they are similarly protected
www.secsports.com
What does Clemson give them the SEC for that kinda money that they don’t already have?The SEC makes enough in three years to pay every dime of a Clemson ACC exit, it’s only a matter of desire. A structured agreement with Clemson with a cheaper “buy back” would make it cheaper for The SEC.
basic business expenses. Trade one year of profit for 20 years of bigger profit. I know it doesn't work exactly like this but folks thinking the SEC can’t take whoever they wish aren’t looking at the big picture. Paying for any teams exit fee is a one year budgetary hit to a conference making 650 a year, right now. If Clemson or whoever agreed to pay 1/4 of that then the SEC destroys the Alliance and jacks their profit margins up at the same time. Im supposing the buyout is cheaper for Big 10 and PAC 12 teams on a per year rate, since their deals are coming up on renewal and not 15 years away. So the Alliance could ultimately kill the ACC, whose teams aren’t as easily “purchased” by the SEC
its the US vs the Sudan in an arms race. folks Are kidding themselves if you think the SEC can be frozen out. BCS Championship Series without them ? never gonna happen, TV alone won’t allow it. People from Dallas to Central Florida to Kentucky simply turn their TVs off after Thanksgiving.
SEC announces 2019-20 revenue distribution - Southeastern Conference
SEC Announces 2019-20 Revenue Distribution
ultimately the entire Alliance is betting that the product they produce is more interesting/watchable than the SEC and that’s a huge gamble for the mid to lower tier Alliance schools. I argue the better gamble for North Carolina, Fla State, Wisconsin, Minnesota etc is to just join the SEC outright and put 70 million a year in their pockets.
it’s been an off year let’s give the schools some help
https://www.al.com/sports/2021/05/s...ion-to-members-due-to-covid-lost-revenue.html
i missed it if The ACC did this, did they ?
