The hysteria is kind of comical. Last week everyone seemed to think that the ACC is screwed because nobody can leave because of the GOR. Now it seems that people think the ACC is going to just fall apart in spite of the GOR. Nothing is happening to the ACC for at least several more years. It is still more likely that the ACC adds teams instead of losing them. If FSU leaves and is successful in getting out of the GOR, then things will be different. That won't happen for several years, because any legal battles would take a while to settle. Most likely scenario is that nothing happens for at least another seven or eight years.
I don't think it's an immediacy, but most likely an eventuality. When the weakest money conference collapses, you can't just assume the next weakest is in a solid position. The ACC is extremely top heavy with sports revenue, and the top will want out whenever possible. Tech is not near the top in sport revenue (and the Big 10 is not that interested in having a "stake in Atlanta" like most of the fanbase assumes)
FSU is pitching a fit at the moment. However, the ACC set up the GOR for exactly this type of scenario. Many people misunderstand what the GOR is. Basically, GT does not own the rights to any media presentation of any GT sports. The ACC owns it all. Same for FSU. If FSU leaves the conference, ESPN will still broadcast their games under the ACC agreement and will pay the money to the ACC, not to FSU. $120 million buyout fee is nothing compared to the fact that you don't have anything to market. FSU wants more than $40 million per year, (which is escalating), but the alternative is to pay $120 million and get zero instead of $40 million per year.
You may need to go drank a few beers, before you jump out a window.
I'm not depressed about it, I just think the fanbase is too optimistic. Was I the only person to just witness the collapse of a power 5 conference, where all the non-athletic focused programs got left out?
You may want to read and understand why the Pac10 failed. Read up the mistake that they did thinking they could run their own network which did not work. Look up Larry Scott the last PAC 12 commissioner
You may be onto the whole thing that is really going on, just wondering if the "7" schools that teamed together before are silently behind what FSU is doing, if not behind they're hoping it works out and maybe knew this was the route that would be taken. The whole thing comes tumbling down if FSU leaves IMO, maybe not immediately but in a short time I'm guessing and then it starts a "sort it out period" as to where everybody ends up. I have always felt that folks at the top in ACC schools were working behind the scenes to dissolve the ACC. It has always made sense to me that if all the ACC schools could work out amongst themselves the dissolution of the ACC that was the way to go. Not sure that is what is happening, but I wonder. The way I see it there are a few schools that end up with out a place to go but the majority (10 or 11) or possibly more end up with new conference, probably the big 3 of SEC, BIG 10, BIG 12. I include ND in my speculative numbers because they have to join the ACC if they take FB to a conference, I see them as having a say and being one of 15 at that point. IMO a court would rule that they have a say since their FB position is controlled by their agreement of having to go to the ACC if joining a conference. I'm not a lawyer so don't put your money on my opinion.
I've been reading along, and thinking that a conference has longevity just because of one media rights deal is hubris, especially when many of the schools are already looking for a way out. If you can't see the direction the sport is going towards (money grabbing), I don't know what to tell you bud. There are only ~2-5 really value revenue producing schools in the ACC for athletics (FSU, Clemson, maybe UNC, Miami, Duke in basketball). That is not a recipe for longevity.
Let me guess. You have a lot of rabid SEC friends and have forgotten how to think, except for trash talk sitting at the bar at Applebee's?
I'm a Tech alum and an engineer. Been a Tech fan my whole life. Been going to games yearly. Please don't attack my character, instead address the points I'm making. No, I don't think the ACC will dissolve next year. I'm looking at the next 10-20 years.
I was trying to use humor, but I already have addressed your points.
Thank you, this is what I was looking for (I have not read into the details of the GOR), and reading tone on the internet can be tough. I still fear for the conference at the conclusion of the deal, but as you said, it can be hard to predict the landscape of CFB over a decade. Hopefully, Tech athletics can get a shot of success in football in the meantime.
So are you saying they can go to another conference if they so decide? I thought they were required to join the ACC if they decide to join a conference. They are restricted from movement to another conference. That indicates to me they could have a case that they should have a say because they are in jeopardy. Do they end up being the 8th member of the gang of 7? The lynchpin so to speak. The swing vote.
Yes, there are a lot of blogs and people on Twitter who are spewing nonsense. People are looking for facts to match what they believe instead of reviewing all of the factual information to see what the truth is. From my layman reading of the GOR and the ACC constitution and bylaws, eight teams cannot dissolve the conference. Internet people then found a section of NC law that says a nonprofit can be dissolved by a simple majority vote. But they ignored the rest of that statue which says - unless there is a different requirement in the constitution of the nonprofit. The ACC constitution requires a 3/4 vote to make any change to the constitution. As I said, people look for wait they want to see and ignore everything else.
You seem more calm and informed about all of this than most, if FSU weasels their way out of the ACC somehow, does the tv contract between espn and the remainder of the acc still stand?
