Conference Realignment

[Techster]

Might have to order the industrial drum of K-Y...

If it doesn't happen that GT gets another invite to the B1G, our leadership just has to look in the mirror. For those GT fans that wanted "tradition, natural geographic rivalries, short commutes to away games" as opposed to a national schedule in a prestigious conference that pays us $100+ million/year and being relevant...well, if/when Clemson/FSU/UVA/UNC leaves, don't worry we'll still have Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse, Boston College, and Louisville!

It will be an EPIC downfall for a program that was once a powerhouse in the South, and was in the powerful SEC as well invited to join the B1G. Kind of like the sports equivalent of Blockbuster turning down Netflix...twice!

 

[iceeater1969]

I wouldn't read too much into that tweet regarding GT. That's just teams he knows that exploring ways to get out of the GOR. Who knows that the ultimate goal for those 7 are. Doesn't mean they have the B1G or SEC waiting on them, and who's to say GT didn't tell those schools "You guys get it worked out, we'll support you once you find out." GT may already have an invite from the B1G waiting (and there's a rumor that's true).

With Angel and Batt the recent tics are up, but the gt decadal trend is headed pell mell to the tallest short person conference.

 

[slugboy]

Welp, this got exciting.

ACC realignment rumblings: How airtight is grant of rights?

ACC schools are locked into the conference until 2036. As the SEC and Big Ten get richer, do those schools have any real options to cash in?

theathletic.com

For you folks that can get past the paywall

 

[alagold]

If it doesn't happen that GT gets another invite to the B1G, our leadership just has to look in the mirror. For those GT fans that wanted "tradition, natural geographic rivalries, short commutes to away games" as opposed to a national schedule in a prestigious conference that pays us $100+ million/year and being relevant...well, if/when Clemson/FSU/UVA/UNC leaves, don't worry we'll still have Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse, Boston College, and Louisville!

It will be an EPIC downfall for a program that was once a powerhouse in the South, and was in the powerful SEC as well invited to join the B1G. Kind of like the sports equivalent of Blockbuster turning down Netflix...twice!

My personal opinion is that we have a better chance of being in the Sunbelt conference than the B10.

 

[bobongo]

My personal opinion is that we have a better chance of being in the Sunbelt conference than the B10.

So you're saying there's a chance...but unfortunately, as it stands now I think you're right.

 

[LT 1967]

We were once the sec stud w Dodd.

Now we are the ACC dud.

Come on Angel and Batt - get that changed from Magnificent 7 to Great 8.

For last decade I wonder what the average donation plus ticket sales are for mag 7 verses gt. All while we share equally in acc network revenue

After Mark Packer's interview with Jim Phillips at the ACC spring meeting, he mentioned that several ACC schools had "Lawyered Up". I wish he had asked Phillips about the situation.
Apparently, he didn't want to put him on the spot.

 

[Techster]

After Mark Packer's interview with Jim Phillips at the ACC spring meeting, he mentioned that several ACC schools had "Lawyered Up". I wish he had asked Phillips about the situation.
Apparently, he didn't want to put him on the spot.

In 2022, when Jim Phillips was appealing for the spirit of amateurism in college sports, and railed against expansion of conferences (on the heels of USC and UCLA joining the B1G), I knew right then and there the ACC and its members were about to be in BIG trouble. College sports has become BIG business, and conference commissioners have to be on the forefront of all of it. We're past accepting that college sports is about business, both on the university and student athlete level, and conferences have to generate value through nationally relevant matchups. The ACC has failed in all of it.

Jim Phillips failed to inspire confidence during his ACC Kickoff presser

I’m still cringing from this one.

www.tarheelblog.com

Phillips seems like a top notch person, and he would have been a great leader for our conference a couple of decades ago, but his mentality leading the ACC is outdated in today's environment. It's not all his fault, as he inherited a conference locked into media contract that looks increasingly more terrible as the years go by. I think he understands he's in between a rock and a hard place: Conference members wanting to leave for greener pastures, and an untenable media contract. Honestly, it's more on the ACC hiring someone that didn't fit the mold of what todays conference commissioners need to be: Powerful media brokers. Just look at what the B1G did with their recent AD hire and that tells you all you need to know about why the B1G is set up to become a massive sports media vacuum, and why the ACC is slowly slipping into also rans.

 

[UgaBlows]

If it doesn't happen that GT gets another invite to the B1G, our leadership just has to look in the mirror. For those GT fans that wanted "tradition, natural geographic rivalries, short commutes to away games" as opposed to a national schedule in a prestigious conference that pays us $100+ million/year and being relevant...well, if/when Clemson/FSU/UVA/UNC leaves, don't worry we'll still have Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse, Boston College, and Louisville!

It will be an EPIC downfall for a program that was once a powerhouse in the South, and was in the powerful SEC as well invited to join the B1G. Kind of like the sports equivalent of Blockbuster turning down Netflix...twice!

 

[roadkill]

ACC realignment rumblings: How airtight is grant of rights?

ACC schools are locked into the conference until 2036. As the SEC and Big Ten get richer, do those schools have any real options to cash in?

theathletic.com

For you folks that can get past the paywall

For those that can't get past the paywall - virtually no new info in that article. Same old speculation for the most part.

 

[LT 1967]

In 2022, when Jim Phillips was appealing for the spirit of amateurism in college sports, and railed against expansion of conferences (on the heels of USC and UCLA joining the B1G), I knew right then and there the ACC and its members were about to be in BIG trouble. College sports has become BIG business, and conference commissioners have to be on the forefront of all of it. We're past accepting that college sports is about business, both on the university and student athlete level, and conferences have to generate value through nationally relevant matchups. The ACC has failed in all of it.

Jim Phillips failed to inspire confidence during his ACC Kickoff presser

I’m still cringing from this one.

www.tarheelblog.com

Phillips seems like a top notch person, and he would have been a great leader for our conference a couple of decades ago, but his mentality leading the ACC is outdated in today's environment. It's not all his fault, as he inherited a conference locked into media contract that looks increasingly more terrible as the years go by. I think he understands he's in between a rock and a hard place: Conference members wanting to leave for greener pastures, and an untenable media contract. Honestly, it's more on the ACC hiring someone that didn't fit the mold of what todays conference commissioners need to be: Powerful media brokers. Just look at what the B1G did with their recent AD hire and that tells you all you need to know about why the B1G is set up to become a massive sports media vacuum, and why the ACC is slowly slipping into also rans.

The silence coming from Phillips has been deafening while all the media Talk has been about the fragility of the ACC for at least a year. But as you say, he has a poor
hand to play. When your conference has only 1 or 2 teams in the top 25 and half the TV viewers as the SEC and B1G, what can you say.

 

[Techster]

Seems healthy...

 

[g0lftime]

It's difficult to think that UNC wants to dissolve the conference that they have controlled for the last 40 years- primarily to protect their basketball program. Now FSU or Miami or GT and others have good reason to be willing to leave as they are not part of the tobacco road crowd. UNC would just be another big state school in the SEC or B1G with no leverage. They would have more money but a lot less influence.
The key is how to generate more tv revenue without blowing up the ACC. Swofford (former UNC player, former UNC AD and then ACC commissioner) has really screwed the ACC with the tv deal.

 

[cpf2001]

So is the play “convince ESPN that you can blow up the ACC to get them to come back to the table since otherwise they’ll have to pay more for new negotiations with other leagues or lose some of them to other media partners in other leagues”?

 

[stinger 1957]

In 2022, when Jim Phillips was appealing for the spirit of amateurism in college sports, and railed against expansion of conferences (on the heels of USC and UCLA joining the B1G), I knew right then and there the ACC and its members were about to be in BIG trouble. College sports has become BIG business, and conference commissioners have to be on the forefront of all of it. We're past accepting that college sports is about business, both on the university and student athlete level, and conferences have to generate value through nationally relevant matchups. The ACC has failed in all of it.

Jim Phillips failed to inspire confidence during his ACC Kickoff presser

I’m still cringing from this one.

www.tarheelblog.com

Phillips seems like a top notch person, and he would have been a great leader for our conference a couple of decades ago, but his mentality leading the ACC is outdated in today's environment. It's not all his fault, as he inherited a conference locked into media contract that looks increasingly more terrible as the years go by. I think he understands he's in between a rock and a hard place: Conference members wanting to leave for greener pastures, and an untenable media contract. Honestly, it's more on the ACC hiring someone that didn't fit the mold of what todays conference commissioners need to be: Powerful media brokers. Just look at what the B1G did with their recent AD hire and that tells you all you need to know about why the B1G is set up to become a massive sports media vacuum, and why the ACC is slowly slipping into also rans.

"why the ACC is slowly slipping into also rans.", more like oblivion.

 

[stinger 1957]

So is the play “convince ESPN that you can blow up the ACC to get them to come back to the table since otherwise they’ll have to pay more for new negotiations with other leagues or lose some of them to other media partners in other leagues”?

On the surface it would look that way, but some of us think there is a lot more going on behind the scenes. That seven or eight schools may have places they can land that they would rather be, not all in the same conference. Speculation as to where each would land, at least in certain of the seven or eight cases. The general consensus is that college sports comes out of all this with 3 major conferences, BIG 10, SEC, Big 12 totaling roughly 60 schools. The SEC being a regional conference built on competitive regional rivals, the BIG 10 built on National contests, media markets coast to coast. Big 12 a National conference, not sure at this time what else goes into their identity. I'm not the gospel, just been paying a lot of attention to this for a while now.

 

[iceeater1969]

Very likely.It won't be tomorrow but we will be 2nd tier in money ---and therefore status.

Whoa, wait a minute.
With less media money how do we make our $12,000,000 a year interest only payment on the $220,000,000 debt ?

TFPrez let gtaa drift in the wind.

TFPrez, imo, was incompetent as the prez of ncaa board of governors when he could have tried to at least steer this $$$ scrum in semi intelligent path.

In Angel I Trust = IAIT!

 

[SilverFox81]

My personal opinion is that we have a better chance of being in the Sunbelt conference than the B10.

You might as well be waving a white flag then. SMH.

 

[Techster]

Whoa, wait a minute.
With less media money how do we make our $12,000,000 a year interest only payment on the $220,000,000 debt ?

TFPrez let gtaa drift in the wind.

TFPrez, imo, was incompetent as the prez of ncaa board of governors when he could have tried to at least steer this $$$ scrum in semi intelligent path.

In Angel I Trust = IAIT!

The flip side is if we had joined the B1G in 2012, we most like could have afforded to pay off that debt entirely by the end of this decade...AND have money leftover to spend on top level HCs, assistants, improve our facilities even more, AND have money leftover for a rainy day.

That wouldn't be the GT way though...we like to make things hard on ourselves.

 

[iceeater1969]

The flip side is if we had joined the B1G in 2012, we most like could have afforded to pay off that debt entirely by the end of this decade...AND have money leftover to spend on top level HCs, assistants, improve our facilities even more, AND have money leftover for a rainy day.

That wouldn't be the GT way though...we like to make things hard on ourselves.

We can turn the boat around w A BUSINESS PRESIDENT but we need to have some big wins on the field. 6-6 w a dang we lost game and a.couple of w upset their axx games will show a basic change has occured. Homecoming verses UNC will be epic.

Our home is ATL. Thats big. AIRPORT, POPULATION, COOL STUFF, SEC HAS CHAMPIONSHIP, GREAT RE RUITING CROSS ROADS

In Angel I Trust TO ACT LIKE GT FOOTBALL NEEDS TO BE BOLD.

 

[Techster]