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LT 1967

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ACC and Big 12 Fans will like Sean McDonough questioning the strength of the B1G during the ND--Indiana game. See excerpt below and full article.

“I think they need to lose the assumption the SEC and the Big Ten are clearly head and shoulders above everybody else,” McDonough said. “Particularly the Big Ten. I mean the SEC has the recent history: Alabama, Georgia. But the Big Ten’s won two national championship’s in college football since when, 2002?”

“Of course Ohio State won the first college football playoff, Michigan last year,” McDonough said. “But I just don’t understand why there’s this presumption, it seems for many, that the Big Ten in particular is so much better than the ACC or Big 12. Not sure what that’s based on. There’s a lot of talk about strength of schedule. Well you’re playing each other. So if you just assume, ‘Well our league’s better than everybody else, so therefore our schedule is tough.’ What if your league isn’t better than everybody else? Is your strength of schedule better than everybody else?”

 
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LT 1967 said:
ACC and Big 12 Fans will like Sean McDonough questioning the strength of the B1G during the ND--Indiana game. See excerpt below and full article.

“I think they need to lose the assumption the SEC and the Big Ten are clearly head and shoulders above everybody else,” McDonough said. “Particularly the Big Ten. I mean the SEC has the recent history: Alabama, Georgia. But the Big Ten’s won two national championship’s in college football since when, 2002?”

“Of course Ohio State won the first college football playoff, Michigan last year,” McDonough said. “But I just don’t understand why there’s this presumption, it seems for many, that the Big Ten in particular is so much better than the ACC or Big 12. Not sure what that’s based on. There’s a lot of talk about strength of schedule. Well you’re playing each other. So if you just assume, ‘Well our league’s better than everybody else, so therefore our schedule is tough.’ What if your league isn’t better than everybody else? Is your strength of schedule better than everybody else?”

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SMU laying an egg today against a B1G team
 

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Root4GT said:
You are making Bold assumptions on "easier path." We will know more after this year, until then we really can only guess who has the easier path.
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Here are the lines going into the final 8 games:

Oregon +1 vs Ohio St
Texas -14 vs Arizona St
Penn St -10.5 vs Boise St
UGA -1.5 vs Notre Dame

I stand by my easier path claims. A number 1 seed should never be an underdog in their first playoff game.
 

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WreckinGT said:
Here are the lines going into the final 8 games:

Oregon +1 vs Ohio St
Texas -14 vs Arizona St
Penn St -10.5 vs Boise St
UGA -1.5 vs Notre Dame

I stand by my easier path claims. A number 1 seed should never be an underdog in their first playoff game.
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They had a bye. That was an advantage. Winning a Conference Championship should matter more than 12 people sitting in a room deciding who is better.
 
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WreckinGT said:
Here are the lines going into the final 8 games:

Oregon +1 vs Ohio St
Texas -14 vs Arizona St
Penn St -10.5 vs Boise St
UGA -1.5 vs Notre Dame

I stand by my easier path claims. A number 1 seed should never be an underdog in their first playoff game.
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FWIW, there hasn't been a single upset. I didn't think the games were especially tight or entertaining, either.

The sample size is too small, but it makes me wonder whether 9-12 just aren't that good or if the home field advantage is too much to overcome.
 
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You can argue about the seeding and the byes, but the bracket is correct.

1v16 Oregon v bye
8v9 tOSU v Tenn

5v12 Texas v Clemson
4v13 Az State v bye

6v11 PSU v SMU
3v14 Boise St v bye

7v10 ND v Indiana
2v15 uga v bye
 
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orientalnc said:
There is a lot of talk about expanding the CFP to 16 teams after next season. I believe that is the incorrect approach. Maybe they should consider cutting back to eight.
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As a GT fan, it seems we should all want 16 teams. There is a much better chance for us to be top 16 (realistic even next season) than a top 8. Plus I love the games with home field vs neutral sites.
 

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All of you wanting 8 teams in the playoffs are really secretly rooting for an SEC and Big Ten playoff. There is no way they are cutting back and including conference champions.

The best four teams should have the byes. The bracket should have been:
1 - Oregon vs 8/9 - Indiana vs Boise
4 - Penn State vs 5/12 - ND vs Clemson
3 - Texas vs 6/11 - Ohio St vs Arizona St
2 - Georgia vs 7/10 - Tennessee vs SMU

Oregon should not be penalized because Boise and Arizona State won a conference and get a bye. The conference champion should get you in the tournament. That's how basketball does it and it works just fine. You don't see the 1 and 2 lines seeded with different conference champions and it works just fine.

The other alternative is to reseed after the first round. Then we would have:
Oregon vs Arizona St
Georgia vs Boise St
Texas vs Ohio St
Penn St vs Notre Dame

This current nonsense allowed Penn State to have an easier bracket than undefeated #1 Oregon, who beat them in the Big Ten championship.
 
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GoJacketsInRaleigh said:
All of you wanting 8 teams in the playoffs are really secretly rooting for an SEC and Big Ten playoff. There is no way they are cutting back and including conference champions.

The best four teams should have the byes. The bracket should have been:
1 - Oregon vs 8/9 - Indiana vs Boise
4 - Penn State vs 5/12 - ND vs Clemson
3 - Texas vs 6/11 - Ohio St vs Arizona St
2 - Georgia vs 7/10 - Tennessee vs SMU

Oregon should not be penalized because Boise and Arizona State won a conference and get a bye. The conference champion should get you in the tournament. That's how basketball does it and it works just fine. You don't see the 1 and 2 lines seeded with different conference champions and it works just fine.

The other alternative is to reseed after the first round. Then we would have:
Oregon vs Arizona St
Georgia vs Boise St
Texas vs Ohio St
Penn St vs Notre Dame

This current nonsense allowed Penn State to have an easier bracket than undefeated #1 Oregon, who beat them in the Big Ten championship.
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Giving the conference champs a 1st round bye seemed reasonable at first. Reward the champs over the non-champs. It didn't play out as well as expected. You could make a good argument that tOSU v. Oregon or ND v. uga will have the two best teams playing each other in the quarterfinals. The seeding needs to be fixed.
 

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They may expand to 16 inthe short run, but the playoff will go to 24 within 8 years. Too much money and passion for it to not. keeping fanbases involved longer into the season is a win win. Even if you lose like SMU at least you had the shot. Many here believe we would beat SMU today. Maybe, but we didn’t win the games we needed to win to have that chance, they did.
 
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