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[gte447f]

Yeah, agents are gonna do what agents do, but I’m sure a lot of coaches and schools are guilty as sin in all this stuff. And please stop with the innocent players being victims in all this. That take is a joke.

In this particular case at fsu, based on the info in the article, which granted is only one side of the story crafted by a plaintiff attorney, I am glad the players are going after Hamilton. I hope they also go after the nil collective and the university. Don’t let Hamilton off the hook by saying coaches aren’t allowed to make nil offers to kids so how could he be at fault? Seriously, it’s called breaking the rules for a reason. Or, nil wasn’t a thing when these players started college, so they should honor their commitments. Sounds like the promises were made for the 23-24 season when nil was a thing, and I’m sure some of the players in question were already transfers into fsu, so yes they were enticed by promises.

 

[gte447f]

I thought coaches or the school could not be involved with NIL. Why are they suing the coach unless the coach is involved in negotiating the NIL deal. Since the NCAA has no enforcement power, who gets their hand slapped?

Who gets their hand slapped? They are suing Hamilton personally for $1.5M plus punitive damages.

 

[MtnWasp]

Contract law is one of the most well developed aspects of civilization. Humans have been using written contracts for literally thousands of years. Our court system is a very sophisticated mechanism of regulating contract law. Labor laws are also well developed.

All the "regulation" that fans seek are staring these parties right in the face. Don't want transfers? Put it in the contracts. As someone already posted: Just get the deal in writing!

 

[MtnWasp]

Does anyone else think Larranaga might have had help from the administration in making this decision?
THWg

Putting the question another way-

If Larranaga was still wining and at the top of the ACC, would he (or the Miami AA) have been as fed-up with the system?

 

[g0lftime]

Who gets their hand slapped? They are suing Hamilton personally for $1.5M plus punitive damages.

Supposed to be a NCAA violation.

 

[MtnWasp]

Supposed to be a NCAA violation.

When was the last time that the NCAA punished anyone for anything?

 

[g0lftime]

When was the last time that the NCAA punished anyone for anything?

I know. That's why I said slap on the wrist. No real consequences any more. NCAA is a consortium of college presidents who agreed to abide by their rules. There essentially are no rules any more.

 

[gte447f]

Supposed to be a NCAA violation.

Well, true, but the parties to this law suit could care less about the ncaa or slapping anyone on the wrist. The plaintiffs want their money.

 

[LawTalkin Jacket]

Did Larranaga actually "retire" and give up what's left on his contract? I doubt it, he was likely forced out and gets paid the remainder of his contract (or close to it). Miami is private so we can't readily know what the deal is without reporters digging. ...even less reason for feel bad for ole Jim who did benefit greatly from NIL and transfers, until he didn't.

 

[forensicbuzz]

When was the last time that the NCAA punished anyone for anything?

FSU OC wasn't allowed to participate in Ireland because he drove a kid to a meeting with an NIL collective. They tried to do it to Tennessee and Virginia; both sued and the NCAA backed off.

 

[GTJackets]

FSU OC wasn't allowed to participate in Ireland because he drove a kid to a meeting with an NIL collective. They tried to do it to Tennessee and Virginia; both sued and the NCAA backed off.

Yeah, but does that really count as punishment? I guess the OC missed out on a trip to Ireland. But did FSU really miss him not being there? I guess everyone thought so at the time.

 

[Root4GT]

Does anyone else think Larranaga might have had help from the administration in making this decision?
THWg

Not likely. He is 75 and his team sucks now. He probably stayed one year too long

 

[Root4GT]

Yeah, but does that really count as punishment? I guess the OC missed out on a trip to Ireland. But did FSU really miss him not being there? I guess everyone thought so at the time.

Would we have missed Buster? Of course.

 

[cpf2001]

Anyone making promises they can’t keep re: NIL just makes it harder for places to retain players and compete without lying and cheating.

If true, I hope the players have receipts and I hope they get a good result from the suit that makes coaches/programs take note.

 

[g0lftime]

Would we have missed Buster? Of course.

Didn't Norvell always call the plays anyway? Buster is a good play caller-----most of the time. LOL

 

[Tommy_Taylor_1972]

Does anyone else think Larranaga might have had help from the administration in making this decision?
THWg

Likely the "encouragement" of AD Dan Rakadovich, who is a finance and business degree guy who expects winning at all costs and investments and would care less about what a coach did in the past. He was the one who fired Coach Hewitt who not win every ear but went to the NCAA finals and won enough with Tech's best recruiting classes to be in the Georgia Tech Sports Hall of Fame and is still coaching in the NBA in the LA Clippers organization's San Diego Clippers.

 

[dtm1997]

Does anyone else think Larranaga might have had help from the administration in making this decision?
THWg

Does anyone else think that LazyAD has a ****ing clue when it comes to making a hoops hire?

He's gonna dumb luck his way into a good hire here, like Will Wade, Sean Miller, or the most ridiculous rumor.of Calipari, but it won't be because he knows what the **** he's doing.

 

[dtm1997]

Likely the "encouragement" of AD Dan Rakadovich, who is a finance and business degree guy who expects winning at all costs and investments and would care less about what a coach did in the past. He was the one who fired Coach Hewitt who not win every ear but went to the NCAA finals and won enough with Tech's best recruiting classes to be in the Georgia Tech Sports Hall of Fame and is still coaching in the NBA in the LA Clippers organization's San Diego Clippers.

LazyAD is incompetent when it comes to managing basketball.

He doesn't care about it.

 

[GTJackets]

Would we have missed Buster? Of course.

Of course, but that wasn't the question.

They scored 21 against us without their OC. Then they ran off 13, 12, 14, 16, 13, 16, 14, 11, 3, 41 (against Chas Southern), and 11 for the rest of the season. So, how much did they really miss him in Ireland being they put up their largest offensive output of the season against an FBS team without him? May also be worth noting that he didn't survive the season as he was fired a day after the 52-3 loss to ND.

Sometimes answering a question with another question may not answer the original question. We absolutely would have missed Buster in Ireland. Georgia may actually miss Bobo if he got suspended. SMU may miss their OC of he was suspended for a week, but maybe not as Lashley could probably remember enough to get by for a week. I guess my point is all OC's may not be created equal.

 

[Root4GT]

Of course, but that wasn't the question.

They scored 21 against us without their OC. Then they ran off 13, 12, 14, 16, 13, 16, 14, 11, 3, 41 (against Chas Southern), and 11 for the rest of the season. So, how much did they really miss him in Ireland being they put up their largest offensive output of the season against an FBS team without him? May also be worth noting that he didn't survive the season as he was fired a day after the 52-3 loss to ND.

Sometimes answering a question with another question may not answer the original question. We absolutely would have missed Buster in Ireland. Georgia may actually miss Bobo if he got suspended. SMU may miss their OC of he was suspended for a week, but maybe not as Lashley could probably remember enough to get by for a week. I guess my point is all OC's may not be created equal.

Or having a terrible QB makes any OC look bad. FSU screwed up thinking DJ was their answer.