ATL week 2

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AlabamaBuzz said:
I agree, but if the staff wants to keep him (not see him enter the portal), they have to do this strategically. My guess is that at some point, they are hoping he will ask to move positions. It was interesting to note that Jeff mentioned both Tuck and Yates as helping him during the game, but he did not mention Graham. Graham, although rooting for his teammates, is probably frustrated right now. Also, if he was told that he is 2nd in the pecking order, he probably would not want to move just yet. I have no idea where he is in the pecking order, since we have an ATL. :)
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No reason to move him now. He’s not going to play as either WR or DB without time to learn the position and with everything going on in this crazy by year we may end up needing him at QB. Plenty of time for a move in the spring.
 

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forensicbuzz said:
I don't agree with this characterization. ATL means you're game-ready. You may play, you may not play, but you've demonstrated the ability to not be a liability on the field and capable of making plays. I think this is written somewhere, maybe even on the ATL release each week.

I don't think it's a fluid thing during a game. It is about O and D, so I agree it excludes ST (other than the specialists). I'd say in rare situations would there be sufficient injuries to warrant putting someone in the game that is not considered game-ready.
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Several people were put in the game who were not ATL. Example: Three other TEs were ATL but Collins gave praise to Coco for blocking late in the game (not an injury/depth issue). Others off the top of my head who played who were not ATL were Douse and Ivey. Seems fluid to me.
 
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danny daniel said:
Several people were put in the game who were not ATL. Example: Three other TEs were ATL but Collins gave praise to Coco for blocking late in the game (not an injury/depth issue). Others off the top of my head who played who were not ATL were Douse and Ivey. Seems fluid to me.
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Sounds to me like ATL is not really ATL, then. Kinda have a problem with that. Sorta. It kinda doesn't sit well.
 
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JacketOff said:
I mean... it’s really no different than a “normal” depth chart. Some players listed won’t play, some not list will play. It just doesn’t specify guys as being 1st or 2nd string.
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Yeah, but that's not what's being preached. I'm not belly-aching, it just seems a little weird. I'm really surprised that no one has asked him about it at all in any of the press conferences. I'd certainly like to hear what he has to say about it. I'm okay with a fluid ATL, if that's what he wants.
 
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Did he pass up healthy players on the ATL list to play others? Or was it that Collins had to go deeper than he planned to?
(I haven’t checked to see of a player was passed over for playing time)
 
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Chas_Jacket said:
We’ll see

Robert Binion of From The Rumble Seat said on our podcast this week that Jordan Mason, Tech’s top running back last season, reportedly suffered a broken foot in the late stages of the FSU game and is ostensibly out for a while.
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If true, that explains Dontae Smith’s appearance during crunch time at FSU. Mason is such a closer, and it didn’t make sense for him not to be in the game at all at that point. Hope it’s not true, and for the record, Smith earned some touches going forward
 

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forensicbuzz said:
Yeah, but that's not what's being preached. I'm not belly-aching, it just seems a little weird. I'm really surprised that no one has asked him about it at all in any of the press conferences. I'd certainly like to hear what he has to say about it. I'm okay with a fluid ATL, if that's what he wants.
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I don’t get why this is so hard. ATL means expect to play, prepare to play. For those who dress who aren’t ATL, be ready in case we need you. Just like any normal depth chart.
 
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ncjacket79 said:
I don’t get why this is so hard. ATL means expect to play, prepare to play. For those who dress who aren’t ATL, be ready in case we need you. Just like any normal depth chart.
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No. That's not what it means per Geoff Collins. Look it up. There are tons of articles quoting him about the ATL process. Those who aren't ATL are considered "not ready to play." Those aren't my words, they're his. I don't get why it's hard for you to understand why I'm confused. It's quite simple. It's his system; he developed it. Now he's not following it. I find that curious. Not a problem, just curious.
 
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forensicbuzz said:
No. That's not what it means per Geoff Collins. Look it up. There are tons of articles quoting him about the ATL process. Those who aren't ATL are considered "not ready to play." Those aren't my words, they're his. I don't get why it's hard for you to understand why I'm confused. It's quite simple. It's his system; he developed it. Now he's not following it. I find that curious. Not a problem, just curious.
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It seems pretty clear that when we have injuries or other reasons why ATL guys can’t play that forces us to use guys who are BTL even if they were considered “not ready to play.” Are we supposed to just go with 10 guys since we need another guy to play but the only other guy isn’t on the ATL list? Doesn’t that just make sense? Seriously it just sounds to me like the most logical explanation for playing a guy when you didn’t feel like he was ready to be a contributor but you put him in anyway. No?

Geoff also says that it’s a developmental program and guys who are BTL one week could be ATL the next by virtue of their development.
 
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