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Is palming (or also known as “carrying” then all back in the day) even still in the rule book?How about palming the ball? Some of these moves are blatant palming. If the hand goes over half way too the bottom of the ball it is being carried. The kids learned this on playgrounds and it was never called so now it has become accepted. It often allows a couple of steps between bounces. The refs are very liberal with allowing the pivot foot to drag or actually change to the other foot. The game is called very different today than when I played many years ago in HS. IMO fouls should only be called when one player gains an advantage over the other due to contact.
Why isn't Burns called for a charge when he literally is pushing/bumping his defender back a couple of feet with his body and then they call touch fouls.
Is palming (or also known as “carrying” then all back in the day) even still in the rule book?
Awbuzz with the winning formula. And many of the shots by George were high arching floaters that are generally not tremendously high percentage shots. But he and Kelly shot us to this win.
I think the 3 spot is a bit of a stretch - especially the way we play. But if he can hold defensive attention in the corner at the 4 spot that would be huge. And allow us to find a big more traditional 5 to play when needed.Ndongo's 3 pt shot shows a promising option for CDS. A big stepping out for a 3 is a huge weapon. Clemson's 2 bigs did it to us. With the addition of a big, Ndomgo could play 3-4 position.
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I think referees on all levels have been educated on this rule so you have not seen it called in many years. When I played HS ball, 60 years ago, if your dribbling hand was under the ball and rolled it over to the top, as todays players do, it was a “carry” offense known as “palming”. Carrying actually means movement with the ball being “grabbed” or held at any moment during dribbling. So, palming itself, without grabbing or holding the ball is not a violation. I might not have this right and/or my understanding might be incorrect, but I think that is how this look has become acceptable. I cannot recall a whistle for palming in ages.My dad complains about this all the time. But I get it. When he played you got called for that kind of stuff really closely. Now it's just a joke.
In college basketball, the NET rankings (NCAA's replacement for RPI) use quadrants to determine the strength of a team's wins and losses, which divide win strength into quadrants. Quad 1 is commonly known, but the NCAAT also have access to Quad 1A and 1B stats. Quad 1A is defined as a Home win vs. teams ranked 1-15 / Neutral win vs. teams ranked 1-25 / Road win vs. teams ranked 1-40. Quad 1 (1A and 1B inclusive) is defined as a Home win vs. teams ranked 1-30 / Neutral win vs. teams ranked 1-50 / Road win vs. teams ranked 1-75.This is cool, but what the hell are 1A and 1B?
Glad you mentioned palming. I wondered if I was misremembering that call from my youth. Sure looks different today.How about palming the ball? Some of these moves are blatant palming. If the hand goes over half way too the bottom of the ball it is being carried. The kids learned this on playgrounds and it was never called so now it has become accepted. It often allows a couple of steps between bounces. The refs are very liberal with allowing the pivot foot to drag or actually change to the other foot. The game is called very different today than when I played many years ago in HS. IMO fouls should only be called when one player gains an advantage over the other due to contact.
Why isn't Burns called for a charge when he literally is pushing/bumping his defender back a couple of feet with his body and then they call touch fouls.
I’m old enough to remember an old Harlem Globtrotter shtick where a player would walk down the court turning the ball over on a high arc every time he took a step, hand above pushing the dribble down, hand beneath lifting the ball high on each bounce. And the refs, as part of the performance, would go nuts, blowing whistles and waving arms.I think referees on all levels have been educated on this rule so you have not seen it called in many years. When I played HS ball, 60 years ago, if your dribbling hand was under the ball and rolled it over to the top, as todays players do, it was a “carry” offense known as “palming”. Carrying actually means movement with the ball being “grabbed” or held at any moment during dribbling. So, palming itself, without grabbing or holding the ball is not a violation. I might not have this right and/or my understanding might be incorrect, but I think that is how this look has become acceptable. I cannot recall a whistle for palming in ages.
I think referees on all levels have been educated on this rule so you have not seen it called in many years. When I played HS ball, 60 years ago, if your dribbling hand was under the ball and rolled it over to the top, as todays players do, it was a “carry” offense known as “palming”. Carrying actually means movement with the ball being “grabbed” or held at any moment during dribbling. So, palming itself, without grabbing or holding the ball is not a violation. I might not have this right and/or my understanding might be incorrect, but I think that is how this look has become acceptable. I cannot recall a whistle for palming in ages.
You can be so ferocious sometimes.
So they can call it in a critical situation, just like that call for traveling against Sturdivant in the last minute. He was being fouled for God sakes. Did they want a bubble team to win? Were they playing to the home crowd? Sure seemed like it.Yea, I think his beef is more with travels/double dribbles basically becoming extinct as well. If it's not part of being called anymore than why have it in the rules anymore?
Years ago basketball was played so much slower. The game today is so fast, and players so agile/athletic taking such long steps & leaps to cover significant distance on the court, that it is just too difficult to always spot a travel without watching a replay. Refs don’t have that luxury & have to make that call in real time. Tough to do sometimes. But to make a call, like the one on the inbound to Sturdivant at the end of last night’s game is just inexplicable to me. I watched that over & over and see nothing even close to a travel.Yea, I think his beef is more with travels/double dribbles basically becoming extinct as well. If it's not part of being called anymore than why have it in the rules anymore?
No. The smoke from Canada reached France but hasn’t been affecting the air much.Are you near any of the wildfires that we see on the news? -)
Certainly not in NBA games. Neither is “traveling” (whatever that is).Is palming (or also known as “carrying” then all back in the day) even still in the rule book?
Palming is still called occasionally, but it is very, very infrequent. I have seen it called a handful (no pun intended) of times in the past few years, maybe once or twice per season, depending on how much bball I watch.I think referees on all levels have been educated on this rule so you have not seen it called in many years. When I played HS ball, 60 years ago, if your dribbling hand was under the ball and rolled it over to the top, as todays players do, it was a “carry” offense known as “palming”. Carrying actually means movement with the ball being “grabbed” or held at any moment during dribbling. So, palming itself, without grabbing or holding the ball is not a violation. I might not have this right and/or my understanding might be incorrect, but I think that is how this look has become acceptable. I cannot recall a whistle for palming in ages.