I’m not denying that. I’m simply saying I see a lot of savior believing in Long and I’m leery because Collins is his boss. I’d be more optimistic if Long was Collins boss because Collins has shown us what he can do. Also, if Long were all world he wouldn’t be the OC at a school like GT.
This implies that we CAN’T have a good coach at Tech. You might be right going forward but the money will always sway some to roll the dice.
I pretty much disagree with essentially all of this (and the previous post by this font...and probably most of them after this post). I know @SOWEGA Jacket wants us to win and wants us to win with this coaching staff, so I just can't buy into all the negativity, especially in May.
So where would have you considered Paul Johnson as far as coaches in the NCAA before Tech hired him? Was he 119th best head coach in the country because he was at Navy for 8 years? Your logic is kind of off
No it’s not. What does Paul Johnson have to do with any of this? He chose to coach at Navy. Nobody forced him to pass up opportunities at bigger programs. I’m a huge Johnson fan going back to Southern. I’m a South Georgia guy so I know more about Johnson than those who jumped on him when GT hired him. I enjoyed every minute of it but he had the career he chose.
You're talking as if the coaching industry is purely a meritocracy. There are plenty of highly qualified minority coaches who would tell you differently. Coaching acumen has something to do with it, but so does your connections. Not getting calls from top tier programs isn't indicative of your coaching ability. Look at guys like Tom Herman and Mark Helfrich who have coached at top programs and had success, yet they are currently without jobs.
Tom Herman could have a number of jobs if he wanted. Rumor for now he is that he is enjoying working as an analyst in the NFL while still being paid 6+ million a year by Texas.
Plenty of teams wanted Long when he had top 10 offenses at Notre Dame. Just like Auburn wanted PJ after winning the orange Bowl at Tech and not so much after going 3-9. I love PJ so no disrespect in the last comment it’s just how it is in the coaching ranks. Long interviewed with Bama in 2019
I think you’re right and I agree on coaching vs recruiting but I think this debate is as heated as politics. People have already made up their minds and they are just looking for supporting evidence. They’ll unite behind getting rid of the guy who isn’t delivering but will immediately revert to the notion that “he just wasn’t doing the important part right.... it’s STILL the most important part.”
Then Bama hired Sarkisian, who was probably more sought after at the time.
There's not really any evidence of that being true. What other teams were after him that we beat out? More realistically we were probably the best offer he could get a year after Tulane was the best offer he could get. I think he is better than our previous OC, but the efforts here to brand him as one of the best OCs in college football that we were super lucky to get are kind of foolish. He was once seemingly at that level but his career took a pretty sharp downturn for whatever reason. Here's hoping he reverses the trend.
Ehh, not really. He has been floundering for a few years, including at Tulane. He's probably better than his last two stops at UT and Tulane would suggest, but probably not going to give us the Notre Dame level offenses that everyone seems to be basing this "head coach tryout" nonsense on either. IOW, it's never as good or as bad as it seems.
