2024 non-GT games thread

[stinger 1957]

What is jumping out at me after reading what you guys have been saying here, is we're heading to an expanded playoff it appears to me. The money folks have to be jumping up and down. I have always thought that being undefeated heading into the playoffs would not be common under the new CFB.

 

[Thwg777]

SMU and Miami are the best bets on that list. Clemson and Louisville are meh bets. Don't bet on the others unless you have cash to throw away.

The key for me is that SMU, Miami, and Clemson all need to hold service. That freezes Clemson at no worse than #12 with two losses. I don't think a close loss in the ACCCG will hurt either Miami or SMU. Clemson sitting at #12 is a good sign. The B12 champ will bump one of the top 12 out, so the ACC needs Indiana to lay an egg against an awful Purdue team or, alternatively, uga or Tennessee to get a 3rd loss next weekend. Boise St falling out of the top 12 doesn't help the ACC. I wonder if ND will fall out of the top 12 with a loss @ USC. Part of me thinks they are locked in no matter what happens short of a blowout loss.

Aside from potential blowout losses, what about critical injuries? Obviously I’m not wanting anyone hurt, but the committee made it clear, that it’s less about on field results and more about Vegas projections of future matchups.

 

[stinger 1957]

orientalnc, think you're right if USC beats ND, TV folks will want ND and their draw.

 

[FredJacket]

ND losing to NIU & USC has to put them out of the playoff. Obviously... it depends on other results, but 10-2 Clemson HAS to be better than 10-2 ND.

No matter what happens, ND will have the ugliest loss of any "contender"

 

[orientalnc]

Aside from potential blowout losses, what about critical injuries? Obviously I’m not wanting anyone hurt, but the committee made it clear, that it’s less about on field results and more about Vegas projections of future matchups.

Aside from Travis Jordan, does any team (other than Boise) have a single player as valuable to their team as he was to FSU? And, at this point there is no opportunity to assess what that loss would mean to his team.

As for ND, late in the season they defeated two previously undefeated Top 25 teams (Navy & Army). I know, they are not P4 teams. But they were ranked highly until their loss to ND by huge score differentials. There are already people who question ND's ranking, but they are winning very impressively over the teams on their schedule.

 

[RamblinRed]

Good article on how the current CFP is working for college football fans in general and that the powers that be shouldn't be quick to make revisions until we let it play out a little.

Chaos of Week 13 Shows Expanded College Football Playoff Is Working

Even if FBS commissioners wanted to change it, the new format is delivering the desired outcome because the games matter.

www.si.com

 

[Root4GT]

It's not zero. But close to it.

If ACC gets 2... there is zero chance one didn't play in the ACCCG.

For 3 ACC teams to get in... Miami & SMU win next weekend & ....
Clemson needs this kind of help (a couple of these to happen)...
USC beats ND
Purdue beats Indiana
Vandy beats Tenn
UGA wins out
Auburn beats Alabama

Plus Clemson needs to connivingly beat South Caroling. And yes the odds are very slim.

 

[Root4GT]

Good article on how the current CFP is working for college football fans in general and that the powers that be shouldn't be quick to make revisions until we let it play out a little.

Chaos of Week 13 Shows Expanded College Football Playoff Is Working

Even if FBS commissioners wanted to change it, the new format is delivering the desired outcome because the games matter.

www.si.com

Thanks Red - great read and he is spot on. It was really fun watching Ole Miss, Alabama and A&M lose yesterday opening up possibilities for many other teams to potentially get in. The chaos in the Big 12 was great as well. Watching Penn State sweat until the last seconds to feel safe was good. There are several actual meaningful games this weekend that would be meaningless in the 4 team CFP!

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Thanks Red - great read and he is spot on. It was really fun watching Ole Miss, Alabama and A&M lose yesterday opening up possibilities for many other teams to potentially get in. The chaos in the Big 12 was great as well. Watching Penn State sweat until the last seconds to feel safe was good. There are several actual meaningful games this weekend that would be meaningless in the 4 team CFP!

Good observation. I had not consciously thought about it until you mentioned it but the expanded playoff certainly creates a lot more meaningful games late in the season.

 

[MWBATL]

Did anybody else do something as stupid as I did? I stayed up through 4 overtimes (or was it 40?) pulling hard for Texas A&M to win. Rarely do I sit through an SEC game and I almost never pull for one SEC team against another. But I knew if Texas A&M went down it would put jawjuh back in the driver’s seat. Not ever wasting my time again on that or allowing myself to get emotionally involved.

Auburn reminds me of where so many teams are in college football. A team can have talent but have some glaring weakness that sabotages their effort. It might be kicking and special teams, it might be being prone to turnovers and penalties, or it might be having a subpar OL or DL. These teams will lose lots of games but under the right circumstances they can put together one or two excellent games and compete with almost anyone.

Tech did that with Miami. I fear it’s too much to ask for them to turn around and do that again.

You’re not alone, brother. I did exactly the same!

 

[bobongo]

Did anybody else do something as stupid as I did? I stayed up through 4 overtimes (or was it 40?) pulling hard for Texas A&M to win. Rarely do I sit through an SEC game and I almost never pull for one SEC team against another. But I knew if Texas A&M went down it would put jawjuh back in the driver’s seat. Not ever wasting my time again on that or allowing myself to get emotionally involved.

Auburn reminds me of where so many teams are in college football. A team can have talent but have some glaring weakness that sabotages their effort. It might be kicking and special teams, it might be being prone to turnovers and penalties, or it might be having a subpar OL or DL. These teams will lose lots of games but under the right circumstances they can put together one or two excellent games and compete with almost anyone.

Tech did that with Miami. I fear it’s too much to ask for them to turn around and do that again.

All I ask is that they play hard and give it that old college try.

 

[AUFC]

What is jumping out at me after reading what you guys have been saying here, is we're heading to an expanded playoff it appears to me. The money folks have to be jumping up and down. I have always thought that being undefeated heading into the playoffs would not be common under the new CFB.

I think viewership for the first round is going to eclipse the following two rounds until the national championship. We will have never seen anything in the history of college football like the environments in these home stadiums and it's going to be gripping television - basically 4 straight games of Ohio State/Oregon. I bet they will give the Friday 8pm slot and Saturday 8pm slot to the home programs with the most chaotic environments.

If I had to make one bold prediction, the first change to the playoff format will be that the quarterfinals will be on campus sites in future seasons. If these stadiums all hold 90-110k capacity, you probably aren't even missing out on luxury seating revenue that the NFL sites can offer.

 

[forensicbuzz]

This. Clemson needs to win this one.

Clemson needs to destroy them. FSU needs to destroy UF. Louisville needs to destroy UK. We need to beat uga.

 

[forensicbuzz]

I hear u but a loss to us plus a loss in SECCG likely would mean they are out which sounds nice

3 losses period should put them out.

 

[forensicbuzz]

SMU and Miami are the best bets on that list. Clemson and Louisville are meh bets. Don't bet on the others unless you have cash to throw away.

The key for me is that SMU, Miami, and Clemson all need to hold service. That freezes Clemson at no worse than #12 with two losses. I don't think a close loss in the ACCCG will hurt either Miami or SMU. Clemson sitting at #12 is a good sign. The B12 champ will bump one of the top 12 out, so the ACC needs Indiana to lay an egg against an awful Purdue team or, alternatively, uga or Tennessee to get a 3rd loss next weekend. Boise St falling out of the top 12 doesn't help the ACC. I wonder if ND will fall out of the top 12 with a loss @ USC. Part of me thinks they are locked in no matter what happens short of a blowout loss.

Can’t have Boise State lose the G5 and B12 automatic qualifier has to be in the Top12. Otherwise, a 3–loss SEC team will jump Clemson at 12 and replace Boise State at 11. Since the highest ranked G5 champion gets a spot, the #12 team would be left out. Clemson needs Boise Stste to stay in the Top12.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

3 losses period should put them out.

Not if they win the CG.

 

[orientalnc]

Can’t have Boise State lose the G5 and B12 automatic qualifier has to be in the Top12. Otherwise, a 3–loss SEC team will jump Clemson at 12 and replace Boise State at 11. Since the highest ranked G5 champion gets a spot, the #12 team would be left out. Clemson needs Boise Stste to stay in the Top12.

Using the AP rankings published yesterday, the only team that would jump over Clemson is AZ State as the B12 champ. If Boise falls out of the top 12, why do you think a 3-loss SEC team would jump over Clemson? The key for Clemson is to keep winning and hope for more chaos higher in the rankings. Unless Clemson loses Saturday, Bama is not going to jump them by beating Auburn. Neither will Ole Miss if they beat Miss St.

 

[stinger78]

This is now in Clemson’s hands. Don’t blow this one, Tigs. Take care of business.

Also, as currently ranked, it breaks out perfectly (unless you're the B12). Four B1G, three ACC, three SEC, 1 Indy, 1 G5. Don’t blow this, CFP. Take care of business.

One of tOSU or Oregon will lose but not drop out of the top 12. Clem closes out against USCe, and ASU with Arizona. No contest, if CU wins, their resume improves more than ASU’s.

 

[orientalnc]

This is now in Clemson’s hands. Don’t blow this one, Tigs. Take care of business.

Also, as currently ranked, it breaks out perfectly (unless you're the B12). Four B1G, three ACC, three SEC, 1 Indy, 1 G5. Don’t blow this, CFP. Take care of business.

One of tOSU or Oregon will lose but not drop out of the top 12. Clem closes out against USCe, and ASU with Arizona. No contest, if CU wins, their resume improves more than ASU’s.

B12 champ???

 

[stinger78]

B12 champ???

Yes. ASU has to fit somewhere right?