2024 non-GT games thread

[stingerman]

If Clemson beats South Carolina this week, I think they are in before the loser of an ACC championship game between SMU and Miami. They will likely be around #12 after this week, they are a big brand, and a win over USCe will put them even higher.

 

[Thwg777]

If Clemson beats South Carolina this week, I think they are in before the loser of an ACC championship game between SMU and Miami. They will likely be around #12 after this week, they are a big brand, and a win over USCe will put them even higher.

Perhaps if Clemson destroys USCe and the loser of the ACCCG gets destroyed.

Personally I don’t like that. In part due to the CCG ‘penalty’ but also in part due to Clemson downright embarrassing the ACC in week 1.

I’m all in favor of the ACC getting respect but have a hard time seeing Clemson performing much differently than they previously did against top competition.

 

[ME22]

If SMU wins the Acc and Clemson beats usc I think you’ll get 3 Acc teams

 

[CEB]

If Clemson beats South Carolina this week, I think they are in before the loser of an ACC championship game between SMU and Miami. They will likely be around #12 after this week, they are a big brand, and a win over USCe will put them even higher.

I think the committee has to be very careful with this.
I agree, for what it’s worth…. This week both Miami and SMU should be top 10. Clemson should be 11-13 range.
If all three win out, Clemson has the best win next week. They could be sitting right behind or maybe even right in front of SMU. The conf championship should be the two best conference teams by definition. Those participants should be the two conference representatives if the conference gets two in the CFP.
I dont think a team should get rewarded for NOT playing in the conf championship. Unless of course, the intent is to kill conference championship games altogether (which may indeed be the case)

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

I’m pretty sure Mack isn’t making decisions for the money. He’s probably got a ton of money in the bank.

i hope Mack doesn’t resign. Poor look when everyone knows he’s going out after next year. Basically holding them hostage. Of course, they could name their elite DC “coach in waiting”.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

Agee. I think the committee has to be very careful on taking an at large over the conference runner up. I guess you could opt Out of the CCG going forward.

 

[slugboy]

David Hale (@adavidhalejoint.bsky.social)

Strength of Record thru Week 13: 1 Oregon 2 UGA 3 Ohio St 4 Penn St 5 Texas 6 Miami 7 Indiana 8 Tenn 9 SMU 10 ND 11 Bama 12 Boise St 13 BYU 14 SoCar 15 Ariz St 16 aTm 17 Iowa St 18 Clemson 19 Ole Miss 20 LSU

bsky.app

Strength of Record thru Week 13:
1 Oregon
2 UGA
3 Ohio St
4 Penn St
5 Texas
6 Miami
7 Indiana
8 Tenn
9 SMU
10 ND
11 Bama
12 Boise St
13 BYU
14 SoCar
15 Ariz St
16 aTm
17 Iowa St
18 Clemson
19 Ole Miss
20 LSU

 

[slugboy]

David Hale (@adavidhalejoint.bsky.social)

By my math, there are 24 teams w/a flicker of hope In: Oregon OhSt UGA Probably in: ND PSU Texas Tenn Possibly in: SMU Miami Indiana Not dead yet: Clemson ArizSt IaSt BYU SoCar Bama Ole Miss A&M Need to win conference title: Boise St UNLV Tulane Colorado Kansas State

bsky.app

By my math, there are 24 teams w/a flicker of hope

In:
Oregon
OhSt
UGA

Probably in:
ND
PSU
Texas
Tenn

Possibly in:
SMU
Miami
Indiana

Not dead yet:
Clemson
ArizSt
IaSt
BYU
SoCar
Bama
Ole Miss
A&M

Need to win conference title:
Boise St
UNLV
Tulane
Colorado
Kansas State

 

[CEB]

David Hale (@adavidhalejoint.bsky.social)

Strength of Record thru Week 13: 1 Oregon 2 UGA 3 Ohio St 4 Penn St 5 Texas 6 Miami 7 Indiana 8 Tenn 9 SMU 10 ND 11 Bama 12 Boise St 13 BYU 14 SoCar 15 Ariz St 16 aTm 17 Iowa St 18 Clemson 19 Ole Miss 20 LSU

bsky.app

Strength of Record thru Week 13:
1 Oregon
2 UGA
3 Ohio St
4 Penn St
5 Texas
6 Miami
7 Indiana
8 Tenn
9 SMU
10 ND
11 Bama
12 Boise St
13 BYU
14 SoCar
15 Ariz St
16 aTm
17 Iowa St
18 Clemson
19 Ole Miss
20 LSU

Wow… they really don’t like Clemson do they? Actually, however, this feels a whole lot better than last weeks (and presumably this weeks) CFP rankings.

 

[TooTall]

David Hale (@adavidhalejoint.bsky.social)

Strength of Record thru Week 13: 1 Oregon 2 UGA 3 Ohio St 4 Penn St 5 Texas 6 Miami 7 Indiana 8 Tenn 9 SMU 10 ND 11 Bama 12 Boise St 13 BYU 14 SoCar 15 Ariz St 16 aTm 17 Iowa St 18 Clemson 19 Ole Miss 20 LSU

bsky.app

Strength of Record thru Week 13:
1 Oregon
2 UGA
3 Ohio St
4 Penn St
5 Texas
6 Miami
7 Indiana
8 Tenn
9 SMU
10 ND
11 Bama
12 Boise St
13 BYU
14 SoCar
15 Ariz St
16 aTm
17 Iowa St
18 Clemson
19 Ole Miss
20 LSU

Since there are 3 teams in the top 10 who we play, does that mean we are we the reason why their schedules are so tough?

 

[CEB]

By my math, there are 24 teams w/a flicker of hope

In:
Oregon
OhSt
UGA

 

[Root4GT]

Perhaps if Clemson destroys USCe and the loser of the ACCCG gets destroyed.

Personally I don’t like that. In part due to the CCG ‘penalty’ but also in part due to Clemson downright embarrassing the ACC in week 1.

I’m all in favor of the ACC getting respect but have a hard time seeing Clemson performing much differently than they previously did against top competition.

USC (e) vs Clemson is a Big Game for the ACC. If Clemson loses that will really hurt the ACC's perception. If Miami loses to Syracuse Clemson is in the ACC Championship Game vs SMU. Best scenario for getting 2 ACC teams into the CFP is for Clemson to beat USCe convincingly and SMU is a very competitive close and entertaining ACCC Game. Having Vandy beat Tennessee would also help.

 

[Lil G]

I can hear Kirk now preparing people to justify a 9-3 UGA in CFP talks before the SECCG even happens…
“UGA understandably didn’t care to beat Tech because they knew they still had the SECCG. It was actually smart of them to rest up. Therefore, eye testing that theory, they will be in the CFP conversation if they end 9-4 with a close loss to Texas”

 

[stingerman]

What 4 teams would be in if it were last year? And who would be on the outside looking in?

 

[orientalnc]

Wow… they really don’t like Clemson do they? Actually, however, this feels a whole lot better than last weeks (and presumably this weeks) CFP rankings.

David Hale lives in Charlotte. Maybe he has Clemson grads as neighbors.

 

[Root4GT]

What 4 teams would be in if it were last year? And who would be on the outside looking in?

Too soon to make that call as Conference Championship Games will have an impact as will games this week. Oregon is currently the only lock but they have 2 games left that they could easily lose.

 

[Thwg777]

USC (e) vs Clemson is a Big Game for the ACC. If Clemson loses that will really hurt the ACC's perception. If Miami loses to Syracuse Clemson is in the ACC Championship Game vs SMU. Best scenario for getting 2 ACC teams into the CFP is for Clemson to beat USCe convincingly and SMU is a very competitive close and entertaining ACCC Game. Having Vandy beat Tennessee would also help.

We’re in agreement. The angle I was scratching at was if Clemson, Miami and SMU all win this weekend - which is in the ACCs best interest, is that the 11-2 loser of the ACCCG should get ahead of 10-2 Clemson that didn’t qualify for the game (and embarrassed the ACC week 1). I’m not opposed to all three being in but that’s unlikely.

 

[orientalnc]

We’re in agreement. The angle I was scratching at was if Clemson, Miami and SMU all win this weekend - which is in the ACCs best interest, is that the 11-2 loser of the ACCCG should get ahead of 10-2 Clemson that didn’t qualify for the game (and embarrassed the ACC week 1). I’m not opposed to all three being in but that’s unlikely.

To get three teams in the cfp the ACC needs help. Tennessee losing to Vandy would be a good start. Likewise, Indiana dropping off the list.

 

[slugboy]

To get three teams in the cfp the ACC needs help. Tennessee losing to Vandy would be a good start. Likewise, Indiana dropping off the list.

Indiana is probably still on the list.

Conference champions scenarios

College football conference championship games: Who's clinched, updated tiebreaker scenarios before Week 14

Full breakdown of teams who are in and what's next for those with work to do.

www.cbssports.com

Big 12 is a mess

Tennessee is probably in the CFP now, unless Vandy steps up

 

[roadkill]

David Hale (@adavidhalejoint.bsky.social)

Strength of Record thru Week 13: 1 Oregon 2 UGA 3 Ohio St 4 Penn St 5 Texas 6 Miami 7 Indiana 8 Tenn 9 SMU 10 ND 11 Bama 12 Boise St 13 BYU 14 SoCar 15 Ariz St 16 aTm 17 Iowa St 18 Clemson 19 Ole Miss 20 LSU

bsky.app

Strength of Record thru Week 13:
1 Oregon
2 UGA
3 Ohio St
4 Penn St
5 Texas
6 Miami
7 Indiana
8 Tenn
9 SMU
10 ND
11 Bama
12 Boise St
13 BYU
14 SoCar
15 Ariz St
16 aTm
17 Iowa St
18 Clemson
19 Ole Miss
20 LSU

How does David define "Strength of Record"? I assume it factors in W/L record with SoS somehow. SoS can be somewhat subjective if you start the season with it preloaded.