2024 non-GT games thread

[orientalnc]

In a fair world they both get in plus ND. But odds are that BIG and SEC get 9 in or more.

ND would have to lose @ USC for this to be a possibility. The Irish are as much a lock as Texas right now. And none of those SEC teams are a lock to win their remaining regular season game.

If you thought, back in August, that the top 12 teams were all in the SEC and B1G and are unwilling to see the results of the 12 games each team played, then yes, you can claim the those two conferences deserve all those bids. Herbstreit has a bias and I don't have an issue with it. But that's his opinion and he is not on the committee.

 

[Thwg777]

In a fair world they both get in plus ND. But odds are that BIG and SEC get 9 in or more.

With the SEC projected to have a bunch of 2 loss teams, yes. But not after yesterday. aTm losing was not a shock but Ole Miss and Bama losing was.

The Big 10 likely gets 4 teams in, SEC 3 teams, ACC 2 teams, ND, Big 12 winner, and best G5 winner.

Unfortunately despite all the chaos, u(sic)ga was a huge beneficiary yesterday. They’re now in the SECCG. Meaning the only way they miss the CFP is that they’d need to lose 2 in a row. Even when we defeat them Friday, they can still get in (but potentially not as a top four seed), if they win the SECCG.

 

[stinger78]

ND would have to lose @ USC for this to be a possibility. The Irish are as much a lock as Texas right now. And none of those SEC teams are a lock to win their remaining regular season game.

If you thought, back in August, that the top 12 teams were all in the SEC and B1G and are unwilling to see the results of the 12 games each team played, then yes, you can claim the those two conferences deserve all those bids. Herbstreit has a bias and I don't have an issue with it. But that's his opinion and he is not on the committee.

Herbstreit exerts a lot of influence upon the committee by publicly and vocally propagating The Narrative at every opportunity. He was openly flouting the SECheat's strength over the B1G's numbers yesterday, giving cover for the committee to choose a lower ranked SECheat team over a B1G team (or an ACC team) with a better record.

 

[Southern psu fan]

What a weekend of college football baby. Both of my teams found ways to win. Both teams won by 1 point…just win baby! Now it’s time to beat dem dawgs!

 

[Northeast Stinger]

My Sunday morning thoughts regarding the CFP:

It would be interesting if:
A&M beats Texas and uga, pushing the dogs out of the CFP
uga loses to GT and the SEC champ (Texas or A&M), pushing the dogs to a mid-December Bowl
Tennessee loses to Vandy
SC loses to Clemson
Indiana loses or struggles against Purdue
Boise loses to Colo St and Army beats Tulane for the AAC championship

If ND loses @ USC, who does this help?

My CFP prediction:
Oregon
Ohio St
Penn St
uga
Texas
Tenn
Miami
SMU
AZ St
Boise St
ND
Indiana

My fears:
uga and Tenn both lose and open the discussion about a 4th SEC team (with 3 losses) in the CFP (after all, it is the SEC)
ND loses (and/or Indiana plays poorly against Purdue) and opens the door for Bama and/or Ole Miss (would they get the invite over Clemson?)
Miami loses to Cuse and SMU loses to Cal

The only CFP locks are:
Oregon
Ohio St
Penn St

If you even half way listen to the color analysts for the SEC games (I try hard not too) they are banging the gong loudly that the “SEC is not like any other conference and deserves to have as many as 5 teams in the playoffs if you just go by strength of conference.” Whether they actually believe that or not they are trying to pressure the committee into a compromise in which the SEC at least gets 3 teams in. It’s so transparently obvious how the SEC media plays this game but unless the peasants rise up and overthrow the monarchy this kind of malarkey will continue.

 

[MWBATL]

Wonderful day in the SEC. Alabama. Ole Miss and A&M all lose to 6-5 teams. Glorious!

Correction, Auburn was 4-6 entering this game.

 

[orientalnc]

If you even half way listen to the color analysts for the SEC games (I try hard not too) they are banging the gong loudly that the “SEC is not like any other conference and deserves to have as many as 5 teams in the playoffs if you just go by strength of conference.” Whether they actually believe that or not they are trying to pressure the committee into a compromise in which the SEC at least gets 3 teams in. It’s so transparently obvious how the SEC media plays this game but unless the peasants rise up and overthrow the monarchy this kind of malarkey will continue.

I agree with you. That's why I installed a MUTE button on my remote.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

I agree with you. That's why I installed a MUTE button on my remote.

Wouldn’t it be nice if playoff committee members watched all games and all films on mute! Then all the indirect lobbying would be screened out.

 

[slugboy]

Wouldn’t it be nice if playoff committee members watched all games and all films on mute! Then all the indirect lobbying would be screened out.

At any large corporation, people giving public talking points are coached as to what the talking points are. Maybe Herbstreit really wants a 3 loss SEC team in, but I'm sure the execs are pushing a point of view that the on air talent echos

 

[TechPhi97]

Does it have to do with the money, if he leaves on his own less money and if they fire him more $??

I’m pretty sure Mack isn’t making decisions for the money. He’s probably got a ton of money in the bank.

 

[TechPhi97]

What I find interesting is no one Questions Texas but many crap on Indiana over their schedule. Compare their schedules side by side and after today both teams will have played one "good" opponent. Texas lost to UGA 30-15 at home and we will see how Indiana does against Ohio State. Both played soft non conference schedules. Both played a bunch of mediocre at best conference teams. One common opponent Michigan which they both beat.

Indiana is fine. They have Purdue next week and they will destroy them. Texas is at A&M next week. A loss there will hurt them as they will have lost to the only 2 good teams they have faced and they will have zero good wins!

Miami simply needs to win. Any loss and they are out of the ACC Championship Game, well if SMU loses to both Virginia and California, then Miami could be back in the ACC CG. Only one ACC Team is getting in the CFP unless there are upsets galore in the SEC, very unlikely.

The Big 12 is up for grabs for sure!

You are 100% correct on ND. They can't afford a loss to Army.

I think if Miami and SMU win out they are both in for the CFP, but that’s probably a minority opinion.

 

[TechPhi97]

Gonna be hard to spin the narrative that a 3-loss Ole Miss still belongs in the playoff after losing to an unranked 5-5 team, but they will try.

Compared to SMU, who has only lost to BYU and Miami, for instance.

 

[TechPhi97]

USCe is the newest anointee of the SECheat. If Clemson can put a whupping on them, it might just close out the SECheat to 2-3 teams.

This. Clemson needs to win this one.

 

[Thwg777]

I think if Miami and SMU win out they are both in for the CFP, but that’s probably a minority opinion.

Frankly as of 24 hours ago, I would have laughed at that. That’s now very likely.

There is no line set yet for SMU / Cal. SMU should be favored by 14-17 points IMO.

Miami is not a huge favorite over Syracuse (10.5). That will not be an easy environment.

Nonetheless, I’d argue at this point that 2 ACC teams is very likely. And arguements can be made for 3 (including Clemson). Those are very unlikely. But just one team isn’t likely either.

 

[TechPhi97]

If UGA is heading to the SEC championship game, does that fire them up or distract them for Friday night?

Yes.

 

[TechPhi97]

Yup, if the SEC ends up with a champ behind Boise St it may be possible they miss the playoff entirely. I’m saying for the B12, that scenario may already be a reality.

The committee will find a way for that to not happen.

 

[slugboy]

Before this weekend, Tennessee was the first team out, and SMU was the second. Texas A&M was the third or fourth team out. Ole Miss, Alabama, and Indiana all lost.
SMU might barely be in as of this week

 

[Root4GT]

Not so fast my friend. The language is “the highest four ranked champs” not “the four champs from the Power 4”. So if there are four conference champs ahead of the SEC champion and the SEC champion is not 13th or above, they will not receive an autobid.

In fact I think this may very well happen to the B12 this year - with BYU and Colorado losing this week they will be in all likelihood ranked behind B1G, SEC, ACC, and MW (Boise St) champs.

Here is the language:

• There are five automatic qualifiers — the five conference champions ranked highest by the CFP selection committee get in automatically

That basically guarantees the 4 P4 Conference Champs. Highly unlikely that 2 G5 Conference Champs are ranked higher than the lowest P4 Conference Champ. One G5 Conference Champ could easily be but 2 - highly unlikely.

 

[Root4GT]

I think if Miami and SMU win out they are both in for the CFP, but that’s probably a minority opinion.

I see Miami in a real Struggle at Syracuse this weekend. Miami's defense has been bad and Syracuse can get hot on offense, especially at home. Both have a chance if they win out and play a good Championship game

 

[Thwg777]

Here is the language:

• There are five automatic qualifiers — the five conference champions ranked highest by the CFP selection committee get in automatically

That basically guarantees the 4 P4 Conference Champs. Highly unlikely that 2 G5 Conference Champs are ranked higher than the lowest P4 Conference Champ. One G5 Conference Champ could easily be but 2 - highly unlikely.

Agree, if there was a chance of two G5s, albeit low, Army getting decimated yesterday killed that.