2022 Schedule??

[Root4GT]

We’ve always had Clemson and Georgia on our schedule and it doesn’t usually lead to three straight 3 win seasons.

We lose to Clemson and UGA 90% of the time. They are very different teams than they were in the early 2010s. Frankly our best teams under any of our coaches would likely win 2 out of 10 games against what Clemson and UGA have become. They expect to compete for the National Championship every year now and in fact do so regularly.

Under CPJ were usually between 4-4 and 5-3 in the Coastal Division (8 of 11 years) with a couple of better years and one worse. This year with Ole Miss, unless they regress significantly, for 8 of the 11 years under CPJ we would would be somewhere 5-7 and 7-5 playing Clemson UGA, Ole Miss and at UCF in OOC games. That is clearly better than 3-9 but not what any of us wants.

 

[bensaysitathome]

There are rumors that the ACC is going to try to drop divisions in the conference soon. If that happens I hope we can start playing Clemson at the same rate as the rest of the conference. Putting ourselves at a competitive disadvantage to start every season seems foolish.

I've heard the move will be towards permanent rivals. Like, every team has 3 opponents on their schedule every year, and cycles the other 11 opponents into the remaining 5 slots.

If we're assigning permanent rivals, I don't see a way Clemson isn't one of ours. Historically Clem and Duke are our big ACC traditions, with withe VT, FSU, and UVA competing for that last spot, if we're brainstorming.

 

[Buzztheirazz]

Unfortunately being a bus ride away from Clemson dooms us in the future for scheduling.

 

[CEB]

Unfortunately being a bus ride away from Clemson dooms us in the future for scheduling.

I don’t think travel has much to do with anything. I won’t say it’s NOT a consideration, but it’s not a big one and it certainly isn’t a barrier.
We would be tied to Clemson because of history and that’s probably the right thing to do. Agree with poster above; fortunately the other natural / historic rival is Duke. Beyond that, the selection is a little more murky. I’d say UVA but you could make a case for FSU too (I assume the Carolina schools would get one another)

 

[JacketFan137]

We lose to Clemson and UGA 90% of the time. They are very different teams than they were in the early 2010s. Frankly our best teams under any of our coaches would likely win 2 out of 10 games against what Clemson and UGA have become. They expect to compete for the National Championship every year now and in fact do so regularly.

Under CPJ were usually between 4-4 and 5-3 in the Coastal Division (8 of 11 years) with a couple of better years and one worse. This year with Ole Miss, unless they regress significantly, for 8 of the 11 years under CPJ we would would be somewhere 5-7 and 7-5 playing Clemson UGA, Ole Miss and at UCF in OOC games. That is clearly better than 3-9 but not what any of us wants.

i also want to say 2020 is a pretty unique circumstance scheduling wise.

we played only 10 games, and we didn’t have any sort of tune up games. the only OOC we played was UCF who was coming off a great season

had we gotten to play like a tulane and a kennesaw state we probably win 5 games. it’s always been a bit dishonest that people count that season the same but whatever lol it’s spilled milk at this point

 

[tmhunter52]

Would we still be an attractive target for the Big 10? Bust the ACC shackles, trade off losses to UGA and Clemson for losses to OSU and somebody else, improve our TV revenues, have more $$$ to dump you-know-who and get a real HC, tap into all those upper Midwest transplants in the ATL… There HAS to be a weak spot in the ACC conference agreement. Or, has TStan and the powers that be considered a Chapter 11 bankruptcy Reorganization to shed the ACC in order to join the Big 10? Let the games begin!

 

[bobongo]

Would we still be an attractive target for the Big 10? Bust the ACC shackles, trade off losses to UGA and Clemson for losses to OSU and somebody else, improve our TV revenues, have more $$$ to dump you-know-who and get a real HC, tap into all those upper Midwest transplants in the ATL… There HAS to be a weak spot in the ACC conference agreement. Or, has TStan and the powers that be considered a Chapter 11 bankruptcy Reorganization to shed the ACC in order to join the Big 10? Let the games begin!

So, we could just declare bankruptcy and ditch the $52 million ACC buyout?

 

[GT33]

So, we could just declare bankruptcy and ditch the $52 million ACC buyout?

The Big 10 payout is about $25M per year greater than the ACC. By year 3, it would be cash positive even with the added expense of travel up north. We could still play Clemp, Free Shoes, Notre Dame & whoever else we wanted to as OOC games instead of lining up Kenn St, Northern. Western, etc. There’s virtually zero downside to abandoning the ACC other than we won’t see a championship in anything other than baseball for a very long while if ever again.

 

[bobongo]

The Big 10 payout is about $25M per year greater than the ACC. By year 3, it would be cash positive even with the added expense of travel up north. We could still play Clemp, Free Shoes, Notre Dame & whoever else we wanted to as OOC games instead of lining up Kenn St, Northern. Western, etc. There’s virtually zero downside to abandoning the ACC other than we won’t see a championship in anything other than baseball for a very long while if ever again.

So, all we'd need to do would be to come up with the $52 million and it would pay off down the road.
But the question is, could we raise the $52 million?

 

[GT33]

So, all we'd need to do would be to come up with the $52 million and it would pay off down the road.
But the question is, could we raise the $52 million?

The ACC pays $34M per year to each of its team, the Big 10 pays $59M. Yes, you borrow $52M. It’s not that big of a loan with an extra $25M/year or more of revenue guaranteed every singe year. We’d pay about $5-6M in interest on the loan. Let’s say it cost us $5M/yr in extra travel. By year 3 we’re at breakeven, except maybe we get lift from ticket sales. GT is always too afraid to make such a bold move.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

The ACC pays $34M per year to each of its team, the Big 10 pays $59M. Yes, you borrow $52M. It’s not that big of a loan with an extra $25M/year or more of revenue guaranteed every singe year. We’d pay about $5-6M in interest on the loan. Let’s say it cost us $5M/yr in extra travel. By year 3 we’re at breakeven, except maybe we get lift from ticket sales. GT is always too afraid to make such a bold move.

We keep waiting for the ACC to get its act together. If they don’t I can think of a couple of teams that might make this kind of move before we do. But it won’t be to go to The B1G. Tech is too beautiful of a tradition and too fine of an institution to end up stranded at the altar while suitors go elsewhere. Wish someone wiser than I could figure out what we need to do.

 

[cthenrys]

i also want to say 2020 is a pretty unique circumstance scheduling wise.

we played only 10 games, and we didn’t have any sort of tune up games. the only OOC we played was UCF who was coming off a great season

had we gotten to play like a tulane and a kennesaw state we probably win 5 games. it’s always been a bit dishonest that people count that season the same but whatever lol it’s spilled milk at this point

You do know the teams we lost to the year before, that year, and after ???? There are no guaranteed wins for us and assuming that if we played two more games wed have two more wins is a little but of wishcasting, you think ?

 

[tmhunter52]

So, we could just declare bankruptcy and ditch the $52 million ACC buyout?

There is a LOT of flexibility built into a Chapter 11 reorganization. It would not cost much at all to look into the feasibility of that course of action.

 

[bobongo]

There is a LOT of flexibility built into a Chapter 11 reorganization. It would not cost much at all to look into the feasibility of that course of action.

The biggest problem is that I don't see how we could carry our own weight in the Big Ten with their $59 million/year payout.
I don't know how much of the Atlanta market we could deliver.

 

[JacketFan137]

You do know the teams we lost to the year before, that year, and after ???? There are no guaranteed wins for us and assuming that if we played two more games wed have two more wins is a little but of wishcasting, you think ?

we literally didn’t have a QB on the roster and had a bunch of option players in general in 2019.

our starting qb didn’t play like the whole game vs northern illinois.

sorry for not being as negative as you

 

[stech81]

The ACC pays $34M per year to each of its team, the Big 10 pays $59M. Yes, you borrow $52M. It’s not that big of a loan with an extra $25M/year or more of revenue guaranteed every singe year. We’d pay about $5-6M in interest on the loan. Let’s say it cost us $5M/yr in extra travel. By year 3 we’re at breakeven, except maybe we get lift from ticket sales. GT is always too afraid to make such a bold move.

Couple of problems, one they asked us years back and we said no that burned that bridge. second we have no rights to our games on TV for ( 2035 just a guess) no conference would want us, now so we don't add anything to them.

 

[GT33]

Couple of problems, one they asked us years back and we said no that burned that bridge. second we have no rights to our games on TV for ( 2035 just a guess) no conference would want us, now so we don't add anything to them.

We lost TV rights, how did that happen?

 

[stech81]

We lost TV rights, how did that happen?

"Grant of Rights" deal locking in ownership of media rights for all member institutions. This is a simple but effective way to keep teams from leaving the ACC

Long story short

Add this and you will see
The ACC agreed to a Grant of Rights deal that runs through 2036 and if a member were to leave before then, they’d have to pay the exit fee and then would forfeit the revenue gained through their media to the ACC. Over the course of 15 years, we could be talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

[g0lftime]

The schedule does not set us up for our usual homecoming game around the end of October. Not thrilled about mid November. HC is one game I will travel to a game regardless of how bad we are. May be a lot earlier this year than in the past.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

we literally didn’t have a QB on the roster and had a bunch of option players in general in 2019.

our starting qb didn’t play like the whole game vs northern illinois.

sorry for not being as negative as you

It may have been a good thing he did not finish the game against Northern Illinois. Not one of his better moments. Yates, you will recall, came in and gave us a spark. Forgive me for not being as "positive" as you but successive 3 win seasons punctuated by historic losses has caused reality to hit me in the face. IIWII