2021 MLB Draft

[eokerholm]

BA's top 300.... I don't have access....

2021 MLB Draft Top 500 Prospects

Ranking the top prospects in the 2021 MLB Draft, complete with scouting reports, prospect video & more.

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[eokerholm]

It's my fist time following the Draft since I know a bunch of the guys in it from the 21 HS Class and East Cobb Astros.

Nice article on Slot values from the 2020 slots.......

Here are the 2020 Draft pools and bonus values

The Tigers and Orioles own the top two picks and the largest bonus pools in the 2020 Draft. While Detroit will make the first selection, Baltimore has slightly more spending power. The Tigers' No. 1 overall choice comes with an assigned value of $8,415,300, compared to $7,789,900 for the Orioles'

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Name	Rank​	Was​	Slot $$​
Harry Ford	​ 22​	​ 24​	$3.027M​
Brant Hurter	​ 94​	​ 93​	$618,200​
Luke Waddell	​ 120​	​ 117​	$492,500​
Luke Bartnicki	​ 148​	​ 136​	$364,400​

Where does that put people like Archer, Crawford, Roedig, Huff, Chapman, Turley, Hall, Wilhite, Medich, and others that potentially could go or do they come back.
I don't think the older guys want to return as they've mentioned on broadcasts it doesn't help your draft stock to return if you're on the older side of this and should have your degree already given the Covid free year and pass.....

Thoughts from you veteran followers? I'm intrigued by the draft for the next few years and getting my legs under me

 

[THWG]

It's my fist time following the Draft since I know a bunch of the guys in it from the 21 HS Class and East Cobb Astros.

Nice article on Slot values from the 2020 slots.......

Here are the 2020 Draft pools and bonus values

The Tigers and Orioles own the top two picks and the largest bonus pools in the 2020 Draft. While Detroit will make the first selection, Baltimore has slightly more spending power. The Tigers' No. 1 overall choice comes with an assigned value of $8,415,300, compared to $7,789,900 for the Orioles'

www.mlb.com

Name	Rank​	Was​	Slot $$​
Harry Ford	​ 22​	​ 24​	$3.027M​
Brant Hurter	​ 94​	​ 93​	$618,200​
Luke Waddell	​ 120​	​ 117​	$492,500​
Luke Bartnicki	​ 148​	​ 136​	$364,400​

Where does that put people like Archer, Crawford, Roedig, Huff, Chapman, Turley, Hall, Wilhite, Medich, and others that potentially could go or do they come back.
I don't think the older guys want to return as they've mentioned on broadcasts it doesn't help your draft stock to return if you're on the older side of this and should have your degree already given the Covid free year and pass.....

Thoughts from you veteran followers? I'm intrigued by the draft for the next few years and getting my legs under me

Since it's 20 rounds, I'll bet that Archer gets drafted in the later rounds. I would be very surprised if he doesn't get drafted, but would also be elated to have him back next year. Hall could get drafted, but only if he returns soon and plays extremely well to end the year. The longer he stays out, the more I think he'll be back next year.
Wilhite and Medich will both be gone as seniors. I think there is a very slim chance that Wilhite gets drafted, but he could sign a contract like Hughes did last year. If Turley finishes his degree, I'd bet that he'll find a job since he's only played sparingly as a backup. I think Crawford, Roedig, and Huff will all be back next year since they are technically just sophomores and will still have a year to "bargain" with scouts. All of them have the stuff to get drafted though. Chapman hasn't performed well enough to get drafted, so he should be back too and I hope he balls out next year.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

It's my fist time following the Draft since I know a bunch of the guys in it from the 21 HS Class and East Cobb Astros.

Nice article on Slot values from the 2020 slots.......

Here are the 2020 Draft pools and bonus values

The Tigers and Orioles own the top two picks and the largest bonus pools in the 2020 Draft. While Detroit will make the first selection, Baltimore has slightly more spending power. The Tigers' No. 1 overall choice comes with an assigned value of $8,415,300, compared to $7,789,900 for the Orioles'

www.mlb.com

Name	Rank​	Was​	Slot $$​
Harry Ford	​ 22​	​ 24​	$3.027M​
Brant Hurter	​ 94​	​ 93​	$618,200​
Luke Waddell	​ 120​	​ 117​	$492,500​
Luke Bartnicki	​ 148​	​ 136​	$364,400​

Where does that put people like Archer, Crawford, Roedig, Huff, Chapman, Turley, Hall, Wilhite, Medich, and others that potentially could go or do they come back.
I don't think the older guys want to return as they've mentioned on broadcasts it doesn't help your draft stock to return if you're on the older side of this and should have your degree already given the Covid free year and pass.....

Thoughts from you veteran followers? I'm intrigued by the draft for the next few years and getting my legs under me

This year's draft is going to be really hard to predict since there is such a backlog from only having 5 rounds last year.

Here are the major factors I think about when guessing on the draft:

1. Whether a player is eligible (duh).
2. Years of eligibility left.
   1. If it's one year and they are drafted, they should take the draft offer usually. If it's one year and they aren't drafted, they often should negotiate for the best they can get. When they have no years left, they are at the mercy of the merciless.​
   2. If it's two or more years, wait and hope for improvement unless it's a really high draft slot. Like Parada will get.​
3. How old the player is. Older means less potential ceiling and thus less money / lower draft slot. Colin Hall is a case to consider. He will be 22 1/2 for this year's draft with a year eligibility left. At that age, I'd think he is too old to project a lot higher in 2022.
4. Special considerations for having a much better season the next year. Like a pitcher coming off TJ.

For our team, there is going to be a lot of angst next year. But our incoming class is probably better, especially for pitching, than what we are losing.

• We started with 45 players on the roster this year and 15 are gong to be draft eligible. But 5 of those 15 have 2 years after this year of eligibility. So really only 10 are fairly sure to go.
• We have 15 commits. Assume we get 10 of them (Ford drafted and 4 go somewhere else to get playing time or are drafted). Ford would be crazy to come to GT if he can be 22nd in the draft. That is great and doubtful he would move up and could move down if he came to GT. But if he doesn't get that high an offer we could well see him.
• So we will have to "cut" about 10 players from this year's roster (= 45 - 35 allowed 2022 roster + 10 drafted or leave - 10 2022 commits arriving). Guys who haven't played this year or aren't playing now (other than injury like Finley) are at high cut risk.

Of these you asked about, "Archer, Crawford, Roedig, Huff, Chapman, Turley, Hall, Wilhite, Medich",

• Archer, RS Jr, last year probably goes, possibly undrafted
• Crawford, RS So, stays
• Roedig, So stays
• Huff, So stays
• Chapman, Jr, last year probably goes, possibly undrafted
• Turley, Jr, goes. No playing time.
• Hall, Jr probably goes. Doesn't have stats and older.
• Wilhite, Sr. Goes on lowball offer since last year.
• Medich, Grad, Not drafted, doesn't have stats.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

Seems 2022 roster limit may be 40 if this article is correct.

Transfer Rule Has Pluses, Minuses For College Baseball • D1Baseball

The newly-passed one-time transfer rule in college baseball has some positives, and some negatives, in the eyes of Division I head coaches.

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[eokerholm]

Summary? Don't have subscription....

 

[GTNavyNuke]

Summary? Don't have subscription....

D1 is the best out there. I read every week (when we are doing better). Hilarious question in chat from a fan whose team was doing bad:

Here's a summary, there are a lot of opinions about the 1 July date being appropriate given the transfer can only be used once. (Stupid to have one at all IMHO)

 

[eokerholm]

2021 Fangraph Mock has Harry Ford going 13th to Phillies
Leiter #4 and Rocker #7

2021 MLB Mock Draft: One Month To Go

Presenting Eric and Kevin’s first 2021 mock draft.

blogs.fangraphs.com

 

[FittedJacket]

2021 Fangraph Mock has Harry Ford going 13th to Phillies
Leiter #4 and Rocker #7

2021 MLB Mock Draft: One Month To Go

Presenting Eric and Kevin’s first 2021 mock draft.

blogs.fangraphs.com

High School catchers are usually the riskiest picks at the top of the draft and rarely pan out. If Ford gets drafted as high as he is predicted to go, it’s definitely because that organization thinks they can move him to another position. Lastly, if he does in fact go this high look for it to be a good amount under slot value.

 

[eokerholm]

based on last year's slots... $4.2M doesn't suck

Here are '21 Draft bonus pools, pick values

The Pirates are positioned better than any club in the 2021 Draft, owning the No. 1 overall pick as well as the largest bonus pool. The top choice comes with an assigned value of $8,415,300 for the third consecutive year, after the MLBPA agreed to allow MLB to freeze the

www.mlb.com

First Round
1) Pirates: $8,415,300
2) Rangers: $7,789,900
3) Tigers: $7,221,200
4) Red Sox: $6,664,000
5) Orioles: $6,180,700
6) D-backs: $5,742,900
7) Royals: $5,432,400
8) Rockies: $5,176,900
9) Angels: $4,949,100
10) Mets: $4,739,900
11) Nationals: $4,547,500
12) Mariners: $4,366,400
13) Phillies: $4,197,300
14) Giants: $4,036,800
15) Brewers: $3,885,800
16) Marlins: $3,745,500
17) Reds: $3,609,700
18) Cardinals: $3,481,300
19) Blue Jays: $3,359,000
20) Yankees: $3,242,900
21) Cubs: $3,132,300
22) White Sox: $3,027,000
23) Indians: $2,926,800
24) Braves: $2,831,300
25) Athletics: $2,740,300
26) Twins: $2,653,400
27) Padres: $2,570,100
28) Rays: $2,493,900
29) Dodgers: $2,424,600
Competitive Balance Round A
30) Reds: $2,365,500
31) Marlins: $2,312,000
32) Tigers: $2,257,300
33) Brewers: $2,202,200
34) Rays: $2,148,100
35) Reds: $2,095,800
36) Twins: $2,045,400

 

[senoiajacket]

based on last year's slots... $4.2M doesn't suck

Here are '21 Draft bonus pools, pick values

The Pirates are positioned better than any club in the 2021 Draft, owning the No. 1 overall pick as well as the largest bonus pool. The top choice comes with an assigned value of $8,415,300 for the third consecutive year, after the MLBPA agreed to allow MLB to freeze the

www.mlb.com

First Round
1) Pirates: $8,415,300
2) Rangers: $7,789,900
3) Tigers: $7,221,200
4) Red Sox: $6,664,000
5) Orioles: $6,180,700
6) D-backs: $5,742,900
7) Royals: $5,432,400
8) Rockies: $5,176,900
9) Angels: $4,949,100
10) Mets: $4,739,900
11) Nationals: $4,547,500
12) Mariners: $4,366,400
13) Phillies: $4,197,300
14) Giants: $4,036,800
15) Brewers: $3,885,800
16) Marlins: $3,745,500
17) Reds: $3,609,700
18) Cardinals: $3,481,300
19) Blue Jays: $3,359,000
20) Yankees: $3,242,900
21) Cubs: $3,132,300
22) White Sox: $3,027,000
23) Indians: $2,926,800
24) Braves: $2,831,300
25) Athletics: $2,740,300
26) Twins: $2,653,400
27) Padres: $2,570,100
28) Rays: $2,493,900
29) Dodgers: $2,424,600
Competitive Balance Round A
30) Reds: $2,365,500
31) Marlins: $2,312,000
32) Tigers: $2,257,300
33) Brewers: $2,202,200
34) Rays: $2,148,100
35) Reds: $2,095,800
36) Twins: $2,045,400

If Mr Ford were to make it to campus, what a “battle Royal’” at the catchers spot between him & Prada. I assume one of them would be DH when not caching, meaning Compton & Jenkins would be fighting for time at 1B. Do you think we can convert one or both to middle infielders ?

 

[eokerholm]

I don't think Compton/Jenkins have the range/quickness/mobility to be mid-infielders, IMO.

Ford ain't coming....God Bless America if he does! But if I were a betting man, which I'm not. I'd be all in on he's drafting and gone. He's that freaking good.
He's a BEAST! At or behind the plate and runs a 6.4. So he's fast and they're talking about converting him to CF, which he played for East Cobb as well.....

 

[GT_B]

Yea looks like Ford is gone. Will be a first rounder. Which is a bummer, but not that unexpected.
I’m a little confused with both Hurter and bartnicki at how high they are projected. I mean hurter has more of a case as he had more proven success over his career, but even he was very inconsistent this year. Bartnicki has lost velocity and still has control issues, I’m sure it’s drafting off of potential, but both seem too high of a pick to me.

 

[senoiajacket]

I don't think Compton/Jenkins have the range/quickness/mobility to be mid-infielders, IMO.

Ford ain't coming....God Bless America if he does! But if I were a betting man, which I'm not. I'd be all in on he's drafting and gone. He's that freaking good.
He's a BEAST! At or behind the plate and runs a 6.4. So he's fast and they're talking about converting him to CF, which he played for East Cobb as well.....

Yeah, the comment about comp/jenk and MIF was said tongue in cheek. We do have big holes to fill there though. How do our MIF recruit prospects look for next year?

 

[THWG]

Yeah, the comment about comp/jenk and MIF was said tongue in cheek. We do have big holes to fill there though. How do our MIF recruit prospects look for next year?

We have a really good SS recruit in Kristian Campbell coming in that might get drafted, but I think he'll make it to campus. If he makes it to campus, I'd bet that he starts at one of the MIF spots.

As for internal options, Anderson and Jackson would probably be the top options to fill both MIF spots.

Another interesting option would be for Malloy to slide over to SS with Compton taking over at 3B. This would give us our best lineup imo with an IF of Compton, Malloy, Jenkins, Anderson/Jackson/Campbell. This would also allow Reid to DH and the OF could be Gonzalez, Hall, DeLeo/Grenkoski.

 

[senoiajacket]

We have a really good SS recruit in Kristian Campbell coming in that might get drafted, but I think he'll make it to campus. If he makes it to campus, I'd bet that he starts at one of the MIF spots.

As for internal options, Anderson and Jackson would probably be the top options to fill both MIF spots.

Another interesting option would be for Malloy to slide over to SS with Compton taking over at 3B. This would give us our best lineup imo with an IF of Compton, Malloy, Jenkins, Anderson/Jackson/Campbell. This would also allow Reid to DH and the OF could be Gonzalez, Hall, DeLeo/Grenkoski.

A left side of the infield of Compton and Malloy terrifies me defensively. Seems like most of JH's error were throwing, so maybe a move to short would at least be neutral from that respect, but just dont know about the range. Does he have any history as a shortstop?

 

[eokerholm]

Ok didn't see the sarcasm filter on MIF

PG profile had JHM at 3B

Justyn-Henry Malloy Class of 2018 - Player Profile | Perfect Game USA

Justyn-Henry Malloy Class of 2018 Perfect Game Player Profile

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Outside of the 7 Error weekend, JHM was pretty solid. I think he'd be natural for SS, but I'm a pitcher dad and don't know how easily the positions are to shift or move all together.

Anderson listed at 2B

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I would venture a guess KC is coming.
I don't think he'd draft high enough to be worth it based on where he is on some lists, not all.... He's good on Offense and Defense and will be one on the short short list to be fighting for SS for sure. He'd get a lot of playing time and therefore I would expect him to show.

Jackson was 2B last year to Wilhite, so Jackson looks good for it. Anderson back up?

I definitely think we need to get compton on the field or I would worry about Transfer Portal. Is he going to stay for just DH?

 

[THWG]

A left side of the infield of Compton and Malloy terrifies me defensively. Seems like most of JH's error were throwing, so maybe a move to short would at least be neutral from that respect, but just dont know about the range. Does he have any history as a shortstop?

I don't think Malloy has played SS, but he played some second base this year so he could move over there as well. I was just suggesting SS because of his range.

 

[THWG]

Ok didn't see the sarcasm filter on MIF

PG profile had JHM at 3B

Justyn-Henry Malloy Class of 2018 - Player Profile | Perfect Game USA

Justyn-Henry Malloy Class of 2018 Perfect Game Player Profile

www.perfectgame.org

Outside of the 7 Error weekend, JHM was pretty solid. I think he'd be natural for SS, but I'm a pitcher dad and don't know how easily the positions are to shift or move all together.

Anderson listed at 2B

Perfect Game USA - World's Largest Baseball Scouting Service

www.perfectgame.org

I would venture a guess KC is coming.
I don't think he'd draft high enough to be worth it based on where he is on some lists, not all.... He's good on Offense and Defense and will be one on the short short list to be fighting for SS for sure. He'd get a lot of playing time and therefore I would expect him to show.

Jackson was 2B last year to Wilhite, so Jackson looks good for it. Anderson back up?

I definitely think we need to get compton on the field or I would worry about Transfer Portal. Is he going to stay for just DH?

I like Anderson's bat more than Jackson's, but I think Jackson is the better defensive player. It might be a good idea to platoon them in some way.

As for Compton, I think that he is going to get drafted after next year, so he would probably stay just to be a DH. However, I think he I more than serviceable at 3B and would rather see Reid DH next year. The best defensive OF we have is Hall, Gonzalez, and Grenkoski with DeLeo being close to Grenkoski. Reid is definitely the worst fielding OF although he probably has the best arm.

Depth is always a good thing though and having too many good players is a great problem to have.