2014 vs 2009, offensive comparison

[dressedcheeseside]

Now that the season is complete, it is interesting to take a look at how two of the most prolific offenses in the CPJ era compare stat for stat.

..............................................'09..............................'14
totals
games played....................... 14.................................14
points per game...................33.8..............................37.9
first downs...........................287................................350
yards/play............................6.16...............................6.72
plays.....................................960...............................993
yards....................................5910..............................6671
3rd down conv %.................52.3%............................57.%
4th down conv %.................55.6%............................70.6
redzone success...................80.7...............................80.8

rushing
yds/attempt..........................5.22...............................6.0
attempts................................792...............................790
yards.....................................4136..............................4789
td's.........................................47...................................47

passing
rating....................................149.6.............................155.1
attempts................................168................................203
yards.....................................1774..............................1882
completion %........................46.4%...........................52.2%
interceptions..........................6....................................6
td's..........................................11...................................19

 

[JorgeJonas]

We'd need to adjust for schedule for the raw metric comparisons to be truly meaningful.

 

[AE 87]

We'd need to adjust for schedule for the raw metric comparisons to be truly meaningful.

Adjusted for schedule, it's no longer the raw metric, fwiw.

Whenever, you use raw stats, you must ask whether you can live with the relative ambiguities. In this case, while sos may be an issue, at least he's comparing apples to apples in basic offensive style, drives/game etc.

 

[GTJoeBrew]

We'd need to adjust for schedule for the raw metric comparisons to be truly meaningful.

IMO, the 2014 schedule was more difficult than 2009. We played 6 opponents who were ranked at the end of the 2014 season, 4 in 2014. We were ranked as high as 7 in 2009 though.

 

[Fatmike91]

IMO, the 2014 schedule was more difficult than 2009. We played 6 opponents who were ranked at the end of the 2014 season, 4 in 2014. We were ranked as high as 7 in 2009 though.

I'll let someone else make quantifiable comparison, but I agree. The edge in strength of schedule goes 2014.

In 2009 we played a true cupcake to start. The rest of our OOC was Miss State, GA and Vandy. We got both Clemson and FSU in the regular season. Then Clemson (again) in the Championship game.

The 2014 version of FSU, Miss State and Duke were better than their respective 2009 versions while the others (uGA, Clemson, Miami) were essentially similar. To balance that, I believe Iowa in 2009 was a very good football team.

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[AE 87]

2009 OFEI, #2, .658
2014 OFEI, #1, .999

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Tevin's '11 offense is another good one for comparison. They played one less game, however, so raw stats cannot be compared directly. What can be compared are the averages, however. Interestingly, the '11 offense, which lacked the star power of either of the above offenses, had a higher yard/play (6.75) than either.

 

[Architorture23]

biggest surprise to me is 4th down conversion pct. if asked, many people might think we were better at 4th down with nesbitt under center.

 

[JorgeJonas]

Adjusted for schedule, it's no longer the raw metric, fwiw.

Whenever, you use raw stats, you must ask whether you can live with the relative ambiguities. In this case, while sos may be an issue, at least he's comparing apples to apples in basic offensive style, drives/game etc.

Yes, I agree on all points. Should have been more clear.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

Thanks @dressedcheeseside I think the 2014 team was a bit better offensively than the 2009 team. I loved both.

The JHowell SOS for GT in 2009 (all games including bowl) was a bit harder at .753 http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2009.htm than the .735 http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2014.htm for the 2014 team. To make a truly meaningful comparison, you'd have to get the SOS for O, D and ST for each team and compare that .... ain't worth the effort IMHO.

 

[GTL]

Both team were money in the red zone. '09 perhaps more so of the QB and RBs as individual talents, '14 more so because of the Oline.

Not to take anything away from either.

 

[Boomergump]

Pretty eye popping if you ask me.

 

[AE 87]

Pretty eye popping if you ask me.

What?

 

[JazzyD95]

What?

Our offense was pretty damn good this season if you didn't notice

 

[Boomergump]

What?

The numbers, when compared to 2009. We were a good offense then, but pretty much, a historically great offense last season. I had never looked at the stat comparison like that before against our last 11 win season.

 

[GTNavyNuke]

The numbers, when compared to 2009. We were a good offense then, but pretty much, a historically great offense last season. I had never looked at the stat comparison like that before against our last 11 win season.

Yup, I remember reading that Football Outsiders had our Offensive FEI at the highest for any team since they started doing stats. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff

No bad since the HS offense has to play the big boys.

 

[GlennW]

Now that the season is complete, it is interesting to take a look at how two of the most prolific offenses in the CPJ era compare stat for stat.

..............................................'09..............................'14
totals
games played....................... 14.................................14
points per game...................33.8..............................37.9
first downs...........................287................................350
yards/play............................6.16...............................6.72
plays.....................................960...............................993
yards....................................5910..............................6671
3rd down conv %.................52.3%............................57.%
4th down conv %.................55.6%............................70.6
redzone success...................80.7...............................80.8

rushing
yds/attempt..........................5.22...............................6.0
attempts................................792...............................790
yards.....................................4136..............................4789
td's.........................................47...................................47

passing
rating....................................149.6.............................155.1
attempts................................168................................203
yards.....................................1774..............................1882
completion %........................46.4%...........................52.2%
interceptions..........................6....................................6
td's..........................................11...................................19

Thanks for pulling these together; I know this took some time and really appreciative on my part for your effort.

 

[dressedcheeseside]

Thanks for pulling these together; I know this took some time and really appreciative on my part for your effort.

No problem. I got all the stats from here:

http://www.cfbstats.com/

 

[GTech63]

We all know the offense has not been the problem. The D is what is holding us back. Last 5 games of 2014 seem to be the light at the end of the tunnel on D. Improved DC, some great potential red shirted and some great potential recruited D players. If the turn overs were made last year, which most were IMHO, and it is due to coaching and aggressiveness 2014 should be another great year. I see an up tick in depth, OBs waiting in the wings, just a good foundation building.

As always injuries can play a big part of holding a team back. But our S & C seems to be getting the right things done. 2015 will hopefully confirm this.

Also in college academics have a negative effect. But it seems the stars are aligning under CPJ and CTR.

I hope we have good weather for this years spring game. Can hardly wait to see the newer and under the radar guys.

Go Jackets!! THWG