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kg01

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I understand your point and sympathize with the sentiment. But, I know there are Swarm members that genuinely believe CDS is not the right coach for GT and want to say that to anyone who will listen. I do not think that eliminates them as true fans. They may be wrong, and I agree with you that they are indeed wrong, but their desire for a new coach is just that. Nothing more.

Anyone who enjoys GT losing just because it would make them 'right' about a coach is flat not a GT fan.

I hated Gregory but I never wanted him to lose. Ever.
 

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I agree with you, but where are they when the team beats Louisville, Clemson away (twice), Duke, North Carolina, Mississippi State or at Wake Forest. They don’t have to sing the praises of CDS, but not a peep or a nod to the players. That is a tell to me they are disappointed the team won. Rooting for losses to hasten a CDS departure is not a GT fan in my book.
You may be right, but I cannot fathom a GT fan wanting the team to lose. So, maybe that's the source of you comment in the previous post.

If they think CDS is the wrong guy for the job, he should be the wrong even when the team ekes out a close win. Even if the team strings together a few close wins over teams that should be beating us. Maybe they are simply disappointed their opinion is not holding up well over time. Pride goeth before a fall.
 

Tom

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Quite a few CDS detractors around here don’t have enough class to congratulate this team on what is sure to become an iconic win. I don’t consider any of them as a true fan of this team if all they do is call for heads to be chopped off after losses and disappear after great victories as if winning disappoints them.

As a believer, I say CDS has already shown his coaching prowess which does not have to be defended by himself or anyone else. But he ain’t Houdini. If McCollum is out & none of the Boot Three are returning yet, neither Sutton nor Mutombo can be counted on for more than a few minutes and neither fill the ball handler need. Next up is walk-on, Emmer Nichols, who CDS said, in recent presser, he “trusted” and has been ready to turn to if necessary. But Nichols is a wing/SF so winning without Reeves, Mustaph, McCollum & O’Brien against any conference foe, home or away, will be extremely difficult. We need to look toward the remaining conference schedule by taking just one game at a time. Getting ahead of ourselves seeing teams with poor records on our schedule and projecting Tournament seedings might be wishful thinking. But that’s about it. Would bet there is no such “targeting” by any GT players or coaches. Good news about McCollum, Mustaph & Reeves is all I am hoping for right now.
I’ll wait for more consistency before I jump back on. Too many highs and lows within a season have worn me out over the past decade to get too excited just yet. With that said, I hope he gets the team to go on a run and win the ACC tournament and get GT back in NCAA tournament. He hasn’t done anything different than Josh Pastner yet for me to say one way or another if he’s the right coach, even with better recruiting. And Josh Pastner wasn’t the right coach. The coach that gets GT to start winning consistently from beginning of the season to the end will be the right coach regardless if I like his style or not. So here’s to CDS figuring it out because I’m tired of constantly wondering if our next hire will be any different. Just want to see GT win.
 

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Quite a few CDS detractors around here don’t have enough class to congratulate this team on what is sure to become an iconic win. I don’t consider any of them as a true fan of this team if all they do is call for heads to be chopped off after losses and disappear after great victories as if winning disappoints them.

As a believer, I say CDS has already shown his coaching prowess which does not have to be defended by himself or anyone else. But he ain’t Houdini. If McCollum is out & none of the Boot Three are returning yet, neither Sutton nor Mutombo can be counted on for more than a few minutes and neither fill the ball handler need. Next up is walk-on, Emmer Nichols, who CDS said, in recent presser, he “trusted” and has been ready to turn to if necessary. But Nichols is a wing/SF so winning without Reeves, Mustaph, McCollum & O’Brien against any conference foe, home or away, will be extremely difficult. We need to look toward the remaining conference schedule by taking just one game at a time. Getting ahead of ourselves seeing teams with poor records on our schedule and projecting Tournament seedings might be wishful thinking. But that’s about it. Would bet there is no such “targeting” by any GT players or coaches. Good news about McCollum, Mustaph & Reeves is all I am hoping for right now.
100% agreed. It’s a tough situation. The team appears to be following the coach’s toughness and embracing the challenge.
 

Rzunz

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I’ll wait for more consistency before I jump back on. Too many highs and lows within a season have worn me out over the past decade to get too excited just yet. With that said, I hope he gets the team to go on a run and win the ACC tournament and get GT back in NCAA tournament. He hasn’t done anything different than Josh Pastner yet for me to say one way or another if he’s the right coach, even with better recruiting. And Josh Pastner wasn’t the right coach. The coach that gets GT to start winning consistently from beginning of the season to the end will be the right coach regardless if I like his style or not. So here’s to CDS figuring it out because I’m tired of constantly wondering if our next hire will be any different. Just want to see GT win.
Key words imho “with better recruiting”
 

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You may be right, but I cannot fathom a GT fan wanting the team to lose. So, maybe that's the source of you comment in the previous post.

If they think CDS is the wrong guy for the job, he should be the wrong even when the team ekes out a close win. Even if the team strings together a few close wins over teams that should be beating us. Maybe they are simply disappointed their opinion is not holding up well over time. Pride goeth before a fall.
If their opinions that Stoudamire is the wrong coach for GT are not holding up, that could only mean good things for GT hoops. If good things for GT hoops disappoints them what kind of fan are we talking about? When do they cheer? Celebrate? Congratulate? Not until CDS is gone?
 
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spdrama

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I’ll wait for more consistency before I jump back on. Too many highs and lows within a season have worn me out over the past decade to get too excited just yet. With that said, I hope he gets the team to go on a run and win the ACC tournament and get GT back in NCAA tournament. He hasn’t done anything different than Josh Pastner yet for me to say one way or another if he’s the right coach, even with better recruiting. And Josh Pastner wasn’t the right coach. The coach that gets GT to start winning consistently from beginning of the season to the end will be the right coach regardless if I like his style or not. So here’s to CDS figuring it out because I’m tired of constantly wondering if our next hire will be any different. Just want to see GT win.
You want CDS to succeed. Nobody can question you being a true fan with that sentiment.
 

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Amazing that GT could win a 3OT game against a 10-0 Clemson team at Clemson without 3 significant contributors out with foot injuries and our 2nd leading scorer going out after 14 minutes in a 55 minute game. Toss in a starting center who is gone from the team with “personal issues” and you have a starting five equivalent out of action.

Great effort game by the rest of the team. Fought hard all game.

This was a great win in a game we realistically had no business winning. Very happy for the players, CDS and the staff.
 

JacketsSports

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Quite a few CDS detractors around here don’t have enough class to congratulate this team on what is sure to become an iconic win. I don’t consider any of them as a true fan of this team if all they do is call for heads to be chopped off after losses and disappear after great victories as if winning disappoints them.

As a believer, I say CDS has already shown his coaching prowess which does not have to be defended by himself or anyone else. But he ain’t Houdini. If McCollum is out & none of the Boot Three are returning yet, neither Sutton nor Mutombo can be counted on for more than a few minutes and neither fill the ball handler need. Next up is walk-on, Emmer Nichols, who CDS said, in recent presser, he “trusted” and has been ready to turn to if necessary. But Nichols is a wing/SF so winning without Reeves, Mustaph, McCollum & O’Brien against any conference foe, home or away, will be extremely difficult. We need to look toward the remaining conference schedule by taking just one game at a time. Getting ahead of ourselves seeing teams with poor records on our schedule and projecting Tournament seedings might be wishful thinking. But that’s about it. Would bet there is no such “targeting” by any GT players or coaches. Good news about McCollum, Mustaph & Reeves is all I am hoping for right now.
I agree with the point on expectations the rest of the season if McCollum is out for extended time and we do not get any of the other injured players back. Foul troubles will be magnified. We need to lower our expectations on the fact that we should get on a roll with the break in the schedule. CDS can only do so much with basically 5 guys (assuming we don't get anyone back from the injured list).
 

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Amazing that GT could win a 3OT game against a 10-0 Clemson team at Clemson without 3 significant contributors out with foot injuries and our 2nd leading scorer going out after 14 minutes in a 55 minute game. Toss in a starting center who is gone from the team with “personal issues” and you have a starting five equivalent out of action.

Great effort game by the rest of the team. Fought hard all game.

This was a great win in a game we realistically had no business winning. Very happy for the players, CDS and the staff.
Well said.
 

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If I'm an opposing coach, the effort against Nait is about to significantly increase.

Someone else expressed the thought earlier. In the beginning of the season, I thought Nait was struggling to find his sophomore fit. That has not been a problem the last few games. The young man is playing with great confidence and has really elevated his game and the team.
 

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If I'm an opposing coach, the effort against Nait is about to significantly increase.

Someone else expressed the thought earlier. In the beginning of the season, I thought Nait was struggling to find his sophomore fit. That has not been a problem the last few games. The young man is playing with great confidence and has really elevated his game and the team.
Before the last 2 games he was solely trying for assists. I shouted at the TV numerous times " shoot the ball" , but really didn't know what kind of shot making abilty he had. These last 2 games he got the message I'm sure CDS was giving him. And wow. Keep it up young man. They back off, make them pay. Very happy for him.
 

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Before the last 2 games he was solely trying for assists. I shouted at the TV numerous times " shoot the ball" , but really didn't know what kind of shot making abilty he had. These last 2 games he got the message I'm sure CDS was giving him. And wow. Keep it up young man. They back off, make them pay. Very happy for him.
He started taking mid range jumpers which coach has wanted him to do.
 

Tommy_Taylor_1972

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Three days???
Not quite, I mistyped the length of the tournament, 3 instead of 5 days. But for analytical and hopeful predictions... If the tournament were today, we would play CAL on Tuesday, Stanford on Wed, likely Louisville on Thur, likely Clemson on Friday, and most likely Duke on Sat. The charts are below on the tournament seeds and today's status.

This may be too much information below that makes me feel optimistic by continuing playing with the demanded and expected intensity they played the last two games, beating teams with twice Tech's rated performance. It is possible for Tech have a winning season. The last chart shows the remaining games, with Tech's SRS today being 6.66. According to the SRS as explained at the top of the chart, we should win 4 more games statistically. But, having proven we can beat teams that are 2 to 3 times better SRS scores, so we could squeeze out 1 more win from those with a SRS higher than us, for a 16-15 regular season record. Win at least one ACC tourney game and end up 17-16. Win 5 and we are 22-16 going into the NCAA tournament as ACC champs. A good second year under the current coach. Back to reality, gotta avoid an upset at UVA first.
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57jacket

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Not quite, I mistyped the length of the tournament, 3 instead of 5 days. But for analytical and hopeful predictions... If the tournament were today, we would play CAL on Tuesday, Stanford on Wed, likely Louisville on Thur, likely Clemson on Friday, and most likely Duke on Sat. The charts are below on the tournament seeds and today's status.

This may be too much information below that makes me feel optimistic by continuing playing with the demanded and expected intensity they played the last two games, beating teams with twice Tech's rated performance. It is possible for Tech have a winning season. The last chart shows the remaining games, with Tech's SRS today being 6.66. According to the SRS as explained at the top of the chart, we should win 4 more games statistically. But, having proven we can beat teams that are 2 to 3 times better SRS scores, so we could squeeze out 1 more win from those with a SRS higher than us, for a 16-15 regular season record. Win at least one ACC tourney game and end up 17-16. Win 5 and we are 22-16 going into the NCAA tournament as ACC champs. A good second year under the current coach. Back to reality, gotta avoid an upset at UVA first.
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Thanks Tommy. If you, or someone could update this weekly it would be appreciated.
 

g0lftime

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These last 2 wins sure up our chances to make the top 15 for the ACCT. Need to finish strong and avoid any more injuries. This is important for momentum into next year and a reward for seniors in their last college season.
 
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