12/21 - dook can eat ****

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AUFC said:
The reality is we are 0-6 against 6 power conference teams that will be dancing. Not ideal of course, but we've got some awfully ****ty opponents coming up and won't be in the basement. Winning the next 5 games (incl Alabama A&M) isn't high percentage but not out of the question.
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That was kinda my point. The 2 conference teams we have played could be the best. I admit we look awful at times (and occasionally good). We are not at Duke level for sure…
 
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Rzunz said:
That was kinda my point. The 2 conference teams we have played could be the best. I admit we look awful at times (and occasionally good). We are not at Duke level for sure…
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Yeah I was agreeing with you. It's an awful, awful conference this year (and getting continually worse as we get out-NIL'd!). We'll win our fair share of games but it's not going to be anything to write home about - probably a conference record that reflects the results of the past decade outside of '19-20 and '20-21. ACC is not a one bid league yet but it's either going to break apart or become one.
 

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I see 2 glaring problems right now. Until we can finish (put the ball in the hole) at a 45+ % rate and find a group of 5 that can play pressure D, we are not going to win.

I think CDS is searching for combinations that can accomplish the above.

We are down 3 starters and our 2 best players from last year are significantly underperforming. CDS can't shoot or play D for them.
 

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Anybody know much NIL our players get, vs Duke/UNC etc?

In my simple mind, it should be easier to buy LW3, 3 A+ players, than to assemble a competitive football team - but I have no clue about the numbers.

I would guess you could wrap three or four B/B- level players, all paid the minimum, around your three A+ players and be really good. Of course keeping your A+ players from all bidding up their NIL and jumping would be a tough. I guess they would be mostly one and done types, just plan on them being around a year or two at most. Good grief.
 

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Started the first half decent. Duke started pulling away, and couldn’t miss much. Fought back to cut the lead to five going into halftime due to tough defense and ball movement. We missed a lot of shots, but we had good paint touches. Also, Baye and Powell were great on offense (Powell also locked down Flagg better than anyone I’ve seen). Came out flat to start the second half, as usual, and got outscored about 20-3 in the first six minutes. Duke made their adjustments and utilized the lobs to Maluch, breaking down the zone by getting the ball to the middle, and keeping us from scoring in the paint.

I don’t understand why we change what’s working at halftime - the lineups, defense and offensive sets. WHY WOULD WE GO ZONE AGAINST A STRONG SHOOTING TEAM ALREADY SHOOTING 65% FROM THE FIELD??? Why change the lineup that got us back in the game? Why get away from the motion offense and ball movement that got us back into the game?

Lance Terry is our leading scorer and we didn’t get him many touches. All of our shots were tough shots. We don’t know how to win unless we clearly outmatch the talent of our opponents.
 
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Just finished watching the game on replay. It looked like a game that would not have been fun to attend, but I’m still sorry I couldn’t be there. On a positive note, my son’s 5th grade team finally got a win after a difficult start to their season.

Back to this GT game, 35% to 55% sooting says it all. Most of GT’s shots looked difficult while most of Duke’s shots looked fluid and in rhythm.

Once again GT had multiple 4-5 minutes stretches without making a basket. You can’t win games doing that every time.

Terry really struggled, but he wasn’t alone. No one really played well.
 

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AUFC said:
The reality is we are 0-6 against 6 power conference teams that will be dancing. Not ideal of course, but we've got some awfully ****ty opponents coming up and won't be in the basement. Winning the next 5 games (incl Alabama A&M) isn't high percentage but not out of the question.
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The reality is we have 5 wins against teams with a combined record of 17-45.

The "best" win of those is UMBC at 7-7 who has lost to teams like Marist, Boston, Hampton, Saint Peter's, as well as by 49 to Penn state and 24 to George Town. We beat them by 9. All 5 of those are Q4 wins.

Our 7 losses are by an average of 14 points. Only two of those have been within 10 points,

We have done nothing this year to indicate we won't be in the basement, and after last year playing ****ty teams doesn't really guarantee anything. We lost 5 of the 6 games against the bottom 4 teams (not including us) in the ACC last year.

We can pretend that getting guys like Reeves and McCollum back will be big difference makers but they aren't really upgrades over what we playing. Reeves is not a noticeable upgrade over Mustaf if he is one at all, nor is McCollum compared to Terry or George. Having more players of a similar level aren't going to solve our issues unless our coach gets better at getting more out of what he has.
 
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Beginning to doubt the coach, we have enough talent to be competitive in a down conference. Outside of Duke, nobody is elite this year, but I bet we will again be at the bottom of the conference. Batt made a good hire with Key, definitely missed with stoudamire. Good coaches build around what they have, and demonstrate sound fundamentals. I think for him to be successful he needs vastly superior talent to beat his competition. At least the buyout isn’t as crippling as Hewitt….
 
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bigrabbit said:
Anybody know much NIL our players get, vs Duke/UNC etc?

In my simple mind, it should be easier to buy LW3, 3 A+ players, than to assemble a competitive football team - but I have no clue about the numbers.

I would guess you could wrap three or four B/B- level players, all paid the minimum, around your three A+ players and be really good. Of course keeping your A+ players from all bidding up their NIL and jumping would be a tough. I guess they would be mostly one and done types, just plan on them being around a year or two at most. Good grief.
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Cooper Flagg allegedly got $2MM from dook. He also has external endorsement deals on top of that.

AJ Dybantsa is allegedly going to get $5MM-$7MM next year between BYU NIL and outside endorsement deals.

Those are the two #1 ranked HS recruits the past 2 seasons.
 
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Javian appears to me to have a foot or leg problem. He seems to have a limp on the court. Maybe it’s just a deal with pain until it fully heals, but he does not look 100% to me. If true, too bad, because he can get buckets when he’s cookin at 100%.
 

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lv20gt said:
The reality is we have 5 wins against teams with a combined record of 17-45.

The "best" win of those is UMBC at 7-7 who has lost to teams like Marist, Boston, Hampton, Saint Peter's, as well as by 49 to Penn state and 24 to George Town. We beat them by 9. All 5 of those are Q4 wins.

Our 7 losses are by an average of 14 points. Only two of those have been within 10 points,

We have done nothing this year to indicate we won't be in the basement, and after last year playing ****ty teams doesn't really guarantee anything. We lost 5 of the 6 games against the bottom 4 teams (not including us) in the ACC last year.

We can pretend that getting guys like Reeves and McCollum back will be big difference makers but they aren't really upgrades over what we playing. Reeves is not a noticeable upgrade over Mustaf if he is one at all, nor is McCollum compared to Terry or George. Having more players of a similar level aren't going to solve our issues unless our coach gets better at getting more out of what he has.
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I read an article on Kelly. He was asked what was his biggest reason for transferring. His response was he wanted to play with better players. Hard to argue that.
 

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dtm1997 said:
Cooper Flagg allegedly got $2MM from dook. He also has external endorsement deals on top of that.

AJ Dybantsa is allegedly going to get $5MM-$7MM next year between BYU NIL and outside endorsement deals.

Those are the two #1 ranked HS recruits the past 2 seasons.
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Thanks, yikes some big numbers. NIL strategy is on my mind.

Key (and staff) seems to be catching on to NIL on limited budget, deciding who to keep, who to get - plus developing good players into better players.

NIL seems huge for assembling a professional style college basketball program not big on development - but you only need a couple great players to make an impact. Anyway just random thoughts - maybe I should go to a Tech Way meeting to learn more.
 
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dtm1997 said:
Cooper Flagg allegedly got $2MM from dook. He also has external endorsement deals on top of that.

AJ Dybantsa is allegedly going to get $5MM-$7MM next year between BYU NIL and outside endorsement deals.

Those are the two #1 ranked HS recruits the past 2 seasons.
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This nonsense is just stupid, and it is eroding fan interest in college sports.

I also don’t get why anyone would pay these kids for endorsements outside of playing basketball. They aren’t marketable personalities or celebrities. Literally no one knows or cares who they are. That’s the nature of being a hired gun who is here today and gone tomorrow.
 
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