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  1. Conference Realignment

    The ACC doesn't just have full authority to do whatever they want with the members rights. All material media rights agreements and updates have to be approved by the members themselves. The original contract was approved by the members and presumably updates were approved as well. Well except...
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    That analogy doesnt make any sense. Surely you can submit a FOIA request to obtain the contracts or purchase orders schools have with vendors. How the vendor they chose obtained chromebooks or manufactured them isn’t really relevant. The ACC isn’t a vendor selling a product to FSU. It is a third...
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    I am actually kind of intrigued by this. Im not sure what FSU's play is here. They have seen the ESPN agreement. They know what is in it. They either want it to be public for whatever reason or they want to put pressure on ESPN to sort this out. Not really sure which. I am also curious how it...
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    Another lawsuit to put on the stack. This time from the Florida AG. https://247sports.com/college/florida-state/article/fsu-acc-lawsuit-florida-attorney-general-espn-230964956/
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    While this sounds great, Jim Philips hasn't exactly shown himself to be much of a leader nor does he have any power anyways. He will do whatever ESPN orders him to do.
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    An explanation from a lawyer on Reddit who appears to have no ties to the ACC or FSU:
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    Im not sure ESPN wants the ACC to dissolve. They just want to move its premier teams to their premier conference. After that, and probably a few more teams leaving for the Big 10 and Big 12, they can negotiate a new contract with the leftovers of the ACC for a substantially lower rate which can...
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    FSU's legal counsel said in the BOT meeting on Dec 22 that she has reviewed the multi media rights contract. The league doesn't prevent members from coming to the ACC offices and viewing it. It is however closely monitored and no pictures or note taking is allowed. As for whether ESPN wants out...
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    Like I have said. I think its very unlikely that FSU's lawyers misinterpreted the contract and I think its very unlikely that they completely lied in a legal filing. Sure there is no way to know for sure without seeing the contract ourselves. The best we can do is take the word of someone who has.
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    Declining early makes no sense because they will be the media partners for the ACC until 2027 either way. They gain literally nothing by declining before they have to. Currently they have to make a decision by February 2025. That is their new contractual decision date assuming the ACC doesn't...
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    It would be interesting to see how they would define viewership. If UGA plays Vandy and it gets 5 million viewers, then Vandy gets a higher payout? You may have a situation where programs with less viewers on average start paying teams like UGA, Bama, and Ohio St for games.
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    ESPN is on the hook for the ACC deal until 2027 whether they decline the option or not. Declining makes no sense if the ACC doesn't actually force them to make a decision.
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    Your response was "who in the hell was voluntarily making long term decisions". This wasn't a voluntary decision. It was a contractually obligated decision that the ACC allowed them to weasel their way out of with no benefit to our conference at all. So why did we grant this extension?
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    ESPN contractually had to make a decision in 2021 about whether to extend the ACC media rights deal to 2036. They obviously didn't do so and asked the ACC for an extension. Why do you think they didn't do so and why do you think the ACC granted the extension while getting nothing in return?
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    Declining the option doesn't make any sense if the ACC will just keep pushing back the option date while getting nothing in return.
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    If the deal were pretty lucrative then ESPN would have exercised their option in 2021 when they were supposed to. We let them extend it for some unknown reason and they still haven't exercised it. Some here act like it is a no brainer for ESPN yet they could do it today if they wanted to and...
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    I think you are downplaying ESPN's likely involvement in the whole process. There is a reason that the Big 12 commissioner sent a cease and desist letter to ESPN and accused them publicly of tortious interference during the OU and UT debacle. He even accused them of trying to lure other programs...
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    I am a fan of whatever is in the best interest of GT. Right now I don't believe that being in the ACC for the next 12 years while college football and college sports in general are being shaped around two major conferences is a very smart long term plan. Nor do I have any trust in the leadership...
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    So in your opinion ESPN and FOX have not been involved in conference realignment outside of being a well meaning media partner watching from the outside?
  20. Conference Realignment

    It was ESPN that moved Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC which not only neutered the Big 12 but set off the dominos of the B1G expanding and the Pac 12 collapsing. The ACC became a second tier conference simply because of the strength of the expanded leagues. If their goal is to have multiple strong...
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