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But the hook and hold is when you put your arm around the other guys arm then grab it to prevent the guy from moving his arm. Nothing like that occurred plus anything that did occur happened after the face shot. Is this like the 15-5 penalties in football used to be where the penalty after the...

I don't get the hook and hold. Kelly takes a shot to the face which is supposed to be a flagrant. Are they saying after he took the shot he then grabbed the other players hand the put it on his throat faking being choked?

Need to let the ACC have it & take his fine. I'll chip in to help pay for whatever it is.

How's the crowd?

When you think you should be better than you are it kinda warps your perspective. unc football has a history & it's not good. They last won the ACC in 1980, never won a National Championship. They think they should be consistently top in the ACC, Top 10 and occasionally winning National...

I've been screwing with them all incessently since the news started leaking out, already pulled the HC in waiting thing on them.

This is a good game to bet on GT. Won't be close. 1. We'll be able to get fastbreak points. I'm thinking 12-16. 2. Miles will make more than 40% of the 3's he takes. I'm thinking he'll make 4-5 today 3. Team will make 10-12 from 3 overall, somewhere around 35% for the team 4. We'll be in...

I don't live in NC. There 8 diehard unc fans at my work, every year the deal's the same. I buy them all lunch after GT beats them. It's damn near an annual event & to a man they hate Mack, disliked his rehire and can't wait for him to leave. We all discuss football all year long interrupted by...

Damn near every unc fan dislikes Mack and wishes him gone. I'm almost convinced this hire is a perverse way of putting the nail in his unc coffin. They saw what was done to our program by MoBS & unc fas are hoping he'll destroy what's left of Mack in 1 season or less so they can move along.

Now that unc is no longer in competition for our #1 choice because they went elite instead, we should be able to get the contract signed by our man tomorrow.

The nominations for Broyles come mostly from the 65 P5 programs each with an OC and DC, that's 130 positions. There's a handful of non-P5 nominees each year, but basically there's 40-45 P5 nominees only requiring a peer to nominate you. The other 10 or so nominees come from other FBS programs...

Only question is: Do we prefer to face unc when they still think their defense is ok, then we humilate them and put them into the annual MoBS tailspin/suck cycle? OR Do we prefer to face them after their defense has already been emasculated by the rest of the ACC and we can put the cherry on top?

Morons with money can do some really bad things to your football program. They should have looked closely to what happened here, but they probably believe they are smarter than us plus they can recruit whoever it wants to their program unlike us.

Just crazy after what he did to our program that ANYONE would touch that. I could see some hard up DII school giving him a 1 year shot, but damn a P5 program. The UNC DC job is not a bad gig & there had to be other options. They about to get the death penalty from the NCAA?

Wow, what a surprise. GT plays better when we run the ball.... a lot. Bell, Burns, Mays, Choice, Dwyer, JT, JfN, Mills, Marshall, Hollings, Haynes, etc.

As well as we played in Hawaii, I hope tomorrow’s game warrants 16 pages of arguing about it. We’ll be in pretty damn good shape to pull off an upset.

Yes, it's starting to leak out

As you pointed out again, the facts just don't match what some people want the narrative to be. Most every morning recently I stroll by this site not to be disappointed by the continuing effort to paint Pul Johnson as some sort of inferior coach and TCC or MoBS as some sort of coaching genius. I...

Is the esseeecee going to win a bowl game this year?

Not sure who caused an entire thread on how well our OL was playing to get nuked, but hope you have a Happy new Year! I swear some people just want us to suck as long as we're pumping iron on the sidelines, perfecting our dance routines, setting records in futility & losing every damn game.