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<blockquote data-quote="takethepoints" data-source="post: 838161" data-attributes="member: 265"><p>Yes. It's in the so-called Melian dialogue. It's full of stuff like that. Here it is in full:</p><p></p><p>“For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences- either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” </p><p>― Thucydides The History of the Peloponnesian War Melian Dialogue</p><p></p><p>Exactly the kind of thinking that got us involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, iow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takethepoints, post: 838161, member: 265"] Yes. It's in the so-called Melian dialogue. It's full of stuff like that. Here it is in full: “For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences- either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” ― Thucydides The History of the Peloponnesian War Melian Dialogue Exactly the kind of thinking that got us involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, iow. [/QUOTE]
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