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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 834238" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Except you are presenting a choice that we have no reason to believe we have. We aren't winning with a less talented QB just because he takes care of the ball. The only loss that you can really even start to pin on turnovers this year was the NIU game but even then it was more general offensive ineffectiveness than turnovers. We were even with them that game. </p><p></p><p>Against Clemson we didn't turn it over (until the last play of the game).</p><p>Against Pitt, the two turnovers didn't help but we couldn't stop them nor could we establish a running game. Just hanging on to the ball wasn't going to win that game certainly if it came at the price of less production from the QB position. </p><p>Against UVA the turnover effectively was little different than a stalled drive and a good punt. We got the ball at our 25 and gave it back to them at their 18. But somehow if we just picked up one first down, then got stopped, and had a punt inside the 20 people would think it was much less hurtful than what we got. </p><p></p><p>QB play this year is not the biggest factor of our losses except maybe the NIU game, and potentially the Clemson game because the other phases did as well as could be reasonably expected. </p><p></p><p>In general, turnovers are more punishing if you have a good defense/special teams because field position can be a better tool and so the relative value of a punt vs a turnover is higher. With our current team the way it is people vastly overrate just holding onto the ball as if punting gives us points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 834238, member: 2299"] Except you are presenting a choice that we have no reason to believe we have. We aren't winning with a less talented QB just because he takes care of the ball. The only loss that you can really even start to pin on turnovers this year was the NIU game but even then it was more general offensive ineffectiveness than turnovers. We were even with them that game. Against Clemson we didn't turn it over (until the last play of the game). Against Pitt, the two turnovers didn't help but we couldn't stop them nor could we establish a running game. Just hanging on to the ball wasn't going to win that game certainly if it came at the price of less production from the QB position. Against UVA the turnover effectively was little different than a stalled drive and a good punt. We got the ball at our 25 and gave it back to them at their 18. But somehow if we just picked up one first down, then got stopped, and had a punt inside the 20 people would think it was much less hurtful than what we got. QB play this year is not the biggest factor of our losses except maybe the NIU game, and potentially the Clemson game because the other phases did as well as could be reasonably expected. In general, turnovers are more punishing if you have a good defense/special teams because field position can be a better tool and so the relative value of a punt vs a turnover is higher. With our current team the way it is people vastly overrate just holding onto the ball as if punting gives us points. [/QUOTE]
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