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Abdoulaye Gueye’s improvement is a big reason for Georgia Tech’s 3-1 ACC start (photo credit to USA Today

Thursday night at McCamish Pavilion, the Virginia Cavaliers, the #2 team in the country, come to town…of course, ice and snow permitting. Virginia is 16-1 on the season and 5-0 in ACC play. They currently sit atop the ACC standings but might be moving back after a battle with the #3 team in the ACC, the Duk…..Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets.

Leading the Cavaliers is Seth MacFarlane’s long-lost brother, Tony Bennett. The two-time National Coach of the Year and in his 9th season at Virginia, Coach Bennett is the other half of Coach Pastner’s get old, stay old motto with Notre Dame’s Mike Brey. Tony Bennett is known for his grind it out defense and working the clock for a good shot on offense. While this type of game plan does not attract the 1 and done guys, UVA has been able to land those four-star players that are super talented but need 3-4 years of development to go pro or be a really solid college basketball player. So far this year, it is no different. The Cavaliers are still playing rock solid defense, but they added something that was missing in the past…offensive weapons, and even scarier…from multiple different players.

To start it off, I will begin with probably the most notable player on the UVA roster. Even though he has let down thousands of people on Twitter by shaving off his man bun, the 6’2” sophomore #5, Kyle Guy is still a fan favorite. Guy is averaging 15.5 points per game and is shooting 44% from behind the arc. If you need a reference, think of Fletcher Magee from Wofford. He can flat out shoot the ball, plain and simple. Now that you have wiped off your sweat following Magee flashbacks, we can continue breaking down Kyle Guy. He has added a nice pump fake and pull up if you close out too strongly on three-point attempts, along with a nice floater if he gets closer to the rim. Defensively, he has been improving and is now constantly sliding his feet, moving over to take a charge and getting those slap down steals that lead to fast breaks. Due to his size, it will be interesting to see if Tech tries to get Tadric on the block against Guy. Especially with a good defender in Devon Hall focusing on Okogie.

Speaking of Hall, #0, he is one of the biggest pieces for Virginia as a 6’5” redshirt senior. The lefty is averaging 12.5 points per game and is shooting 47% from three. He usually plays the 3 in the lineup and can do a little bit of everything for UVA. Hall has nice court vision, hits open shots, and plays tough defense all game, as you will see is a trend for all these Virginia players. Not much more to say. Hall will play hard and get the job done. Every. Single. Night.

Here comes the “Human Highlight” #21, Domin….Isaiah Wilkins. The 6’7” senior out of Greater Atlanta Christian Academy, previously known as “oh hey, that’s Dominique’s kid” during the first two and half years of his career at UVA, is now a vastly improved, above average ACC player. He has always had the athleticism and energy, but has finally put it all together. If you don’t believe me just look at college hoops and one of GTSwarm’s posters favorite’s, Jon Rothstein’s twitter. Book it. It seems like every game he tweets “Isaiah Wilkins, ultimate glue guy” and that is what he is. His defense is spectacular and at the moment, I say he wins ACC Defensive Player of the Year. Now that he has added an offensive game, he is a serious threat and someone that needs to be held in check.

The other guard for UVA is the 6’5” sophomore out of New York #11, Ty Jerome. Even though he was rated a 4-star by most of the services, I believe he is severely underrated. As you might be shocked, he is sound player that does a lot of things right (they have those at UVA?). He can shoot it, play defense as he loves to get the poke from behind steals, and works the ball around to the open teammate. It seems like he is always the one to make the extra pass to Guy in the corner for the three and assist. Despite not wearing any accessories or having the “off the bus factor”, Ty Jerome is a baller.

The big man for Tony Bennett is #33, Jack Salt. Not only does his name sound like some fake name celebrities use when booking a reservation, but the 6’10” redshirt junior out of New Zealand has a lot of skill. He feeds off of drop-off passes in the paint for the two-handed jam and hits the backside offensive glass for easy put backs. He has a huge frame much like Purdue’s Isaac Haas and is a force down low. You are not going to move him out of the way, and if he boxes you out like he typically does, you might as well start running back on defense. Though, an area where Salt struggles is with fouling. He tends to hack and reach when he does not need to. If Lammers or AD are at the line a lot tonight, Tech should be in an advantageous position.

The wild card for Virginia is the redshirt freshman out of Philly #12, De’Andre Hunter. The 6’7” wing who was upset that he had to redshirt last year, has come out with a mission in his first campaign. If you could go to a factory and design a body type for a wing, Hunter would be the model to use. With the help of his athleticism, he has brought some needed change of pace and high-flying action to Charlottesville to go along with the great defense and ball movement already established.

The two other players that typically round out the UVA rotation are 6’1” grad transfer from Rutgers #23, Nigel Johnson, along with 6’9” redshirt sophomore #25, Mamadi Diakite. Out of the two Johnson is the shooter and Diakite is the slasher. Diakite’s jump shot is still a work in progress, but his vertical needs no work. Like Hunter, he comes off the bench with energy and tries to get some fast break dunks to extend the lead while the starters get a little rest. When Johnson comes in, he is in there to keep the offense moving, make the smart upperclassmen choices with the ball, and hit the open shot when available.

Prediction: Georgia Tech will have a lot on their plate, but offensively it is setting up for Tadric Jackson to break out. He is due, and I have a “Boston College from last year” feeling about this game. If he can slash and get into the lane, or on the block/high post against Guy, I like Tech’s chances. Georgia Tech will also need Alston and Alvarado to hit open threes on the wing when we swing it, along with Haywood when he is in there. I will be surprised if Okogie has a big game, but if he does, I will feel confident in a W. With all this considered, I still can’t bring myself to picking them…them as in Virginia. Tech by 6. *cue Pastner pumping up the crowd as he walks into the tunnel after the game*

 
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RamblinRed

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Just got an email that less than 300 tickets remain for the game against UVA.
it also mentions all hot dogs will be $2 on Thursday.
 

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If you are going to beat their pack line D you have to be able to penetrate or otherwise get the ball to the middle and kick it out to shooters when they help. JO or Tadrick are not going to consistently drive it nor will Lammers or AD post their way to success.

One twist I am looking for will be whether Lammers can hit some mid range shots as I bet they come in helping off of him.

On defense for us they (especially Salt) set the best picks in the league and then play off of them. But you really have to talk and have your head on a swivel regardless of man or zone

They do pretty much everything well or at least good so it is hard to find the weak link to go after

This is all correct.

I would say if UVa has a weakness, it's that both Salt and Diakite can sometimes be foul magnets, and if you're REALLY committed to pounding it down low, you might be able to get us in foul trouble.

On the perimeter, we're pretty good. Honestly on the perimeter we're as good as anybody in the country, with Hunter's development.

Devon Hall can be streaky. If he's on, I like us against any team in the country on a neutral court. If he's not? Teams have a shot.

The difference this year is we can REALLY stroke it from 3. Hall is shooting 47% from 3. Guy is shooting 45%. Jerome is shooting 43%. It puts a TON of pressure on opposing defenses to show and recover, because we really do put teams through the ringer with our screens. Salt really is good at his role of A) setting brick wall screens B) Dunking, and C) providing old fashioned, knuckles-and-elbows rim protection.

I know this sounds like your run of the mill opposing fan who thinks their team is better than it is...but I really think we're really good this year.
 

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This is all correct.

I would say if UVa has a weakness, it's that both Salt and Diakite can sometimes be foul magnets, and if you're REALLY committed to pounding it down low, you might be able to get us in foul trouble.

On the perimeter, we're pretty good. Honestly on the perimeter we're as good as anybody in the country, with Hunter's development.

Devon Hall can be streaky. If he's on, I like us against any team in the country on a neutral court. If he's not? Teams have a shot.

The difference this year is we can REALLY stroke it from 3. Hall is shooting 47% from 3. Guy is shooting 45%. Jerome is shooting 43%. It puts a TON of pressure on opposing defenses to show and recover, because we really do put teams through the ringer with our screens. Salt really is good at his role of A) setting brick wall screens B) Dunking, and C) providing old fashioned, knuckles-and-elbows rim protection.

I know this sounds like your run of the mill opposing fan who thinks their team is better than it is...but I really think we're really good this year.

I fully expect UVA to win. They "should" win. However, an upset would not surprise me. The mcmammary tit is gonna be slam full and ROCKIN.

Our coach has a knack for getting our guys ready to play up to big competition at home. UVA is really good, but GT is really really dangerous at home.
 

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Bruh. I am a big fan of CJP. Love that he is using social media to try and get people out into the stands.

He also gives us a great chance at each of the games we play. I firmly believe he bends and twists his schemes to maximize the output from the guys.

UVA is going to be a HUGE challenge, but I’m happy with our chances for a couple of reasons that have already been mentioned.

1) Home court advantage. We have been sneaky good at home under CJP. The boys get up for conflict and are ready to go to war when inside the friendly confines of McCamish.

2) Rest = Best. The guys have had some extra time to stay off their feet and get healthy. We have a streak going so should ride positive momentum and benefit IMHO from playing the #2 team. It’s like built-in protection from the team getting big heads.

3) Pace of Play. I believe both teams are going in with the intention to limit possessions and think our defensive effort to date bodes well for limited possessions. Especially given us having Jose (its cold out on the streets for a true freshman PG in ACC play) running the ball. He hasn’t shown cracks yet from the pressure but this is going to be his biggest game to date. It also helps CH2 get back into the flow.

4) Fire and Desire. We have a chance to make a statement to the conference that last year’s wasn’t a fluke. That pre-December has been put to rest. That the team is legit with all our guys healthy and playing.

I have been impressed with the way that CJP relates to the players (from the outside looking in of course). I think he’ll have them jacked up and ready to go get some Thursday night.

Finally, I have loved seeing the way Coawinch has adapted what we do to fit what the guys need. Moving Lammers to the 4 was not a normal move for a coach when he is shutting down the paint and rim, but we did it for the offensive benefit to the team and it’s worked. Starting a true freshman PG is scary in our conference, but coach showed confidence in JA to go do him, and it’s panned out so far. He’s used his TOs to keep guys rested and performing since we are backed in to playing 6 or 7 guys for 95%+ of the minutes. The defensive zones and switches we throw at teams warm my heart. We FINALLY play to win the first and last 5 minutes of each half. Something we consistently failed to do under previous coaches.

I think we will see us go big and attack down low to try to get UVA into foul trouble early and often. I also think it will work.

Go Jackets!


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This is all correct.

I would say if UVa has a weakness, it's that both Salt and Diakite can sometimes be foul magnets, and if you're REALLY committed to pounding it down low, you might be able to get us in foul trouble.

On the perimeter, we're pretty good. Honestly on the perimeter we're as good as anybody in the country, with Hunter's development.

Devon Hall can be streaky. If he's on, I like us against any team in the country on a neutral court. If he's not? Teams have a shot.

The difference this year is we can REALLY stroke it from 3. Hall is shooting 47% from 3. Guy is shooting 45%. Jerome is shooting 43%. It puts a TON of pressure on opposing defenses to show and recover, because we really do put teams through the ringer with our screens. Salt really is good at his role of A) setting brick wall screens B) Dunking, and C) providing old fashioned, knuckles-and-elbows rim protection.

I know this sounds like your run of the mill opposing fan who thinks their team is better than it is...but I really think we're really good this year.

Nah I pretty much think that is spot on
 

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Bruh. I am a big fan of CJP. Love that he is using social media to try and get people out into the stands.

He also gives us a great chance at each of the games we play. I firmly believe he bends and twists his schemes to maximize the output from the guys.

UVA is going to be a HUGE challenge, but I’m happy with our chances for a couple of reasons that have already been mentioned.

1) Home court advantage. We have been sneaky good at home under CJP. The boys get up for conflict and are ready to go to war when inside the friendly confines of McCamish.

2) Rest = Best. The guys have had some extra time to stay off their feet and get healthy. We have a streak going so should ride positive momentum and benefit IMHO from playing the #2 team. It’s like built-in protection from the team getting big heads.

3) Pace of Play. I believe both teams are going in with the intention to limit possessions and think our defensive effort to date bodes well for limited possessions. Especially given us having Jose (its cold out on the streets for a true freshman PG in ACC play) running the ball. He hasn’t shown cracks yet from the pressure but this is going to be his biggest game to date. It also helps CH2 get back into the flow.

4) Fire and Desire. We have a chance to make a statement to the conference that last year’s wasn’t a fluke. That pre-December has been put to rest. That the team is legit with all our guys healthy and playing.

I have been impressed with the way that CJP relates to the players (from the outside looking in of course). I think he’ll have them jacked up and ready to go get some Thursday night.

Finally, I have loved seeing the way Coawinch has adapted what we do to fit what the guys need. Moving Lammers to the 4 was not a normal move for a coach when he is shutting down the paint and rim, but we did it for the offensive benefit to the team and it’s worked. Starting a true freshman PG is scary in our conference, but coach showed confidence in JA to go do him, and it’s panned out so far. He’s used his TOs to keep guys rested and performing since we are backed in to playing 6 or 7 guys for 95%+ of the minutes. The defensive zones and switches we throw at teams warm my heart. We FINALLY play to win the first and last 5 minutes of each half. Something we consistently failed to do under previous coaches.

I think we will see us go big and attack down low to try to get UVA into foul trouble early and often. I also think it will work.

Go Jackets!


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I really appreciate all these advantages we have going in to this game. But, I think Bennett is a better than average coach by any measure. It is possible he has noticed we really do not have backups for Lammers and Alvarado (who could be called ACC level players). Both are playing far too many minutes already and both are likely to be physically challenged by multiple UVA defenders on our end and attacked on their end. Even if the game is close with 10 minutes left, I think they will destroy us in the final minutes. And, I can see how it could be close up to that point. We really need their guards to have what for them would be an off night. Quirky things can happen, but fatigue will be an ever present danger for us.

What I fear is another game like that 57-28 game in Charlottesville in 2014. We were over matched and humiliated by their defensive pressure. The odd thing about that game was that we only had 10 turnovers. But they never let us take an uncontested shot.
 

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Some interesting stats from Ken Pom:
https://kenpom.com/

1) Georgia Tech is ranked #102. While that sounds awful, I think we were over 200 just a few weeks ago IIRC.
2) Look at AdjT - Adjusted Tempo. This means how many possessions you get. We are ranked #327 (meaning we play SLOOOOOOW). But wait, just like Ginsu knives, there's more! UVA is #351. Holy cow! This game could easily be a 52-46 game. I still haven't recovered from when we played up there a few years ago and only scored 28 dang points.
 

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I really appreciate all these advantages we have going in to this game. But, I think Bennett is a better than average coach by any measure. It is possible he has noticed we really do not have backups for Lammers and Alvarado (who could be called ACC level players). Both are playing far too many minutes already and both are likely to be physically challenged by multiple UVA defenders on our end and attacked on their end. Even if the game is close with 10 minutes left, I think they will destroy us in the final minutes. And, I can see how it could be close up to that point. We really need their guards to have what for them would be an off night. Quirky things can happen, but fatigue will be an ever present danger for us.

What I fear is another game like that 57-28 game in Charlottesville in 2014. We were over matched and humiliated by their defensive pressure. The odd thing about that game was that we only had 10 turnovers. But they never let us take an uncontested shot.

If you remember I thought the same thing about the big guy last year and his minutes. We went to the NIT championship game. Alvarado is a kid that probably wants to play 40, I have zero doubt about that and he cherishes big play opportunities. I think we’re good
 

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I really appreciate all these advantages we have going in to this game. But, I think Bennett is a better than average coach by any measure. It is possible he has noticed we really do not have backups for Lammers and Alvarado (who could be called ACC level players). Both are playing far too many minutes already and both are likely to be physically challenged by multiple UVA defenders on our end and attacked on their end... [i made edits by cutting out a chunk of this post since we were taking up the full page quoting eachother]

What I fear is another game like that 57-28 game in Charlottesville in 2014. We were over matched and humiliated by their defensive pressure. The odd thing about that game was that we only had 10 turnovers. But they never let us take an uncontested shot.

So, first as mentioned above inside the quote I shortened the post I am responding to. Nothing nefarious just doing for ease of reading.

I agree that we are playing with fire based on our depth and rotation but don’t see much to be done about it in season. It’s like deciding on the third hole that your grip is wrong while playing a round of golf. You don’t switch it there during the round, you grit your teeth and adjust best you can to the situation then fix it after the round at the practice tees.

We are where we are with regards to players and I think going any deeper prevents us from being able to win these games. If we start losing the season then I would be all for a deeper rotation and playing less minutes for starters, but as of now we gotta do with what we got. I think you probably feel the same way right?

@peacone I also agree with Jose wanting those minutes. He is young and full of vim and vigor. Ben, likewise, seems to have an extra well of reserves though having a couple of guys in AD and Ogbonda helps give him a breath.

We are going to be in for a wild ride I think, and as I said before I think a slow paced defensive game helps minimize the wear and tear brought on by playing a shallow rotation like what we have been doing.

Appreciate the conversation - go Tech!


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I agree that we are playing with fire based on our depth and rotation but don’t see much to be done about it in season. It’s like deciding on the third hole that your grip is wrong while playing a round of golf. You don’t switch it there during the round, you grit your teeth and adjust best you can to the situation then fix it after the round at the practice tees.

Except we have done just that with our change in how we use Gueye. And it's paid off.
 

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Whatever happens against UVa, I expect to be absolutely destroyed on the road Saturday at UNC because:
  1. it's a road game
  2. on very short rest
  3. adrenaline exhaustion will hurt us after getting so up for the Virginia game
  4. lack of depth will be telling in the 2nd game, not the 1st
  5. UNC remembers last year
  6. they may not be as good as lat year, but they ain't Pitt.
 

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I think this is the conf game where being 347th out of 351 college basketball teams in 3pt shooting bites us. Still don't understand how an ACC school literally has no shooters, but by God we did it.
 

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Except we have done just that with our change in how we use Gueye. And it's paid off.

Agreed that AD’s switch has helped us tremendously. That is my point though. Partner will take educated risks during the season but to play extra guys just cuz won’t get it done.


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