The End of College Sports As We Know It

[Techastrophe]

Since it's all about money, here are some more ideas. 1) Update stadium and edge building to host day-of-game wagering as well as year-round machine-based gaming. 2) Create a mobile app for season ticket holders that secretly gathers and sells personal data. 3) Redevelop land from the old "east campus student housing" to make an upscale entertainment district. 4) See if any foreign governments want to create an alternative league that's less stuck on ethics and/or better delivers instant gratification. 5) Corner the market on frozen concentrated orange juice. 6) Lobby for forgiveness of crippling excess unfair athletic department debt.

 

[iceeater1969]

Since it's all about money, here are some more ideas. 1) Update stadium and edge building to host day-of-game wagering as well as year-round machine-based gaming. 2) Create a mobile app for season ticket holders that secretly gathers and sells personal data. 3) Redevelop land from the old "east campus student housing" to make an upscale entertainment district. 4) See if any foreign governments want to create an alternative league that's less stuck on ethics and/or better delivers instant gratification. 5) Corner the market on frozen concentrated orange juice. 6) Lobby for forgiveness of crippling excess unfair athletic department debt.

When they had chance - should have done 5 ? Orange juice futures.
Another time sensitive - when ga dome / benz built should have razed BDS and gone more vertical w parking garage, condo, fancy tower of offices, and classes. Parking and buses to from benz would be be much more efficient. Also the falcon fans could see GT every home game.

 

[roadkill]

Baker said he believes about 100 schools might consider opting into a new subdivision.

There are 133 schools in Division 1 football’s highest tier, the Football Bowl Subdivision. Baker’s proposal seems targeted at about half those schools that compete in the five power conferences. That number of conferences is shrinking to four after recent realignment moves go into effect next year, but it will still encompass about 65 schools.

Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner Jim Phillips said Baker needs now to gather support from various constituencies, from university presidents to athletic directors to coaches.

“It’s not going to please everybody and maybe some (schools) can and can’t do certain things,” Phillips said. “So it’s important now to get a reaction from the missive that Charlie sent.”

Baker said differences in budget sizes across Division I have traditionally caused conflicts in the NCAA. He wants schools that have the ability to spend more on their athletes to be free do so.

The concern among some in college sports is that allowing the wealthiest schools to wield that power will create insurmountable competitive advantages.


Nothing extensively new, but the overall theme here is the decision makers are accepting that some current P5 programs will not be able to compete in the new era.

This proposal may be a reaction to the legal trouble the NCAA is facing on multiple fronts. If schools are going to be required to pay athletes anyway, why not try to put some new guidance in place that at least some schools could embrace?

• House v. NCAA – Athletes seeking two years of back pay from the Alston ruling.
• Johnson v. NCAA – Athletes asking to be recognized as employees.
• (New) – Several state A.G.s asking for relief from the multi-time transfer rule, based on illegal restraint (antitrust).

Meanwhile, the NCAA is lobbying Congress to allow them some exemptions from the antitrust issues.

 

[okiemon]

"The football-based subdivision would be independent of the FBS and FCS dichotomy. Teams at either level are eligible to opt into the football subdivision. However, teams that opt in will ultimately be able to exist at a different level than the rest of college football. The group could decide different roster sizes, recruitment practices, transfer or NIL rules, even while competing against other members of FBS or FCS working under the existing rules. "

Regarding this quote from the CBS article, I’ll need someone a lot smarter than me to explain how this will work. If, for example, the new “upper tier“ decides to set a scholarship limit of 100 for football and to allow recruiting and transfers year round - including making offers to players on teams in the “second-tier” group - how would the second-tier teams compete with them? And why would they want to?

 

[a5ehren]

Do you have proof of this? Link?

Sports is not a central part of their identity. They determined long ago to walk away from what modern college sports was becoming, and good for them.

It's common knowledge, but they're all private so they can kinda just do whatever they want.

It isn't like their whole football team had a 4.0 and 15 other extracurriculars in high school. Or had daddies with money.

 

[MWBATL]

Do you have proof of this? Link?

Sports is not a central part of their identity. They determined long ago to walk away from what modern college sports was becoming, and good for them.

I was involved in Harvard as an interviewer for a number of years for the Admissions Office. If we were mistakenly assigned an athlete, we were told to back off and direct them directly to the appropriate coach for their sport. There is NO DOUBT that, like probably every university, Ivies dilute their entrance requirements for special talents. The only question is to what degree. UGa players would likely still never be accepted at an IVY, but yes, Virginia, there is the same process in the Ivy League as elsewhere. (NB-this also would apply to a concert pianist or exceptionally promising quantum theorist who happened to suck at other aspects of a regular curriculum.)

 

[684Bee]

I was involved in Harvard as an interviewer for a number of years for the Admissions Office. If we were mistakenly assigned an athlete, we were told to back off and direct them directly to the appropriate coach for their sport. There is NO DOUBT that, like probably every university, Ivies dilute their entrance requirements for special talents. The only question is to what degree. UGa players would likely still never be accepted at an IVY, but yes, Virginia, there is the same process in the Ivy League as elsewhere. (NB-this also would apply to a concert pianist or exceptionally promising quantum theorist who happened to suck at other aspects of a regular curriculum.)

Or the ultra rare quantum theorist/concert pianist/athlete. I feel like somehow GT would still screw up admitting this guy.

 

[Thwg777]

Or the ultra rare quantum theorist/concert pianist/athlete. I feel like somehow GT would still screw up admitting this guy.

What about an aerospace engineering major / QB from Alpharetta, GA?

 

[ChicagobasedJacket]

What about an aerospace engineering major / QB from Alpharetta, GA?

Dobbs didn’t seriously consider us because of the offense we were running at the time.

 

[GT33]

Or the ultra rare quantum theorist/concert pianist/athlete. I feel like somehow GT would still screw up admitting this guy.

He'd probably be a legacy and would be told to go to North Georgia for a year as punishment for his parents having gone to GT.

 

[Techster]

 

[Southern psu fan]

We need 4 major conferences and take 4 conference champs and let ‘em fight it out on the field for the NC. Keep everything else the same and have fun. I hate the thought of 2 conferences. Smh