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<blockquote data-quote="Legal Jacket" data-source="post: 177620" data-attributes="member: 601"><p>I think they would probably keep the cross division game, but my guess is clemson would be moved to our division. There could be a swap up between the Carolina and Virginia teams.</p><p></p><p>It's a very similar problem recently confronted by the SEC. There is no way UNC and UVA won't play each other every year. They've done that every year since 1919, with the first game in 1892. Second longest continuous series in the ACC (first somehow being NC State - Wake Forest, which makes sense because I think Wake used to be located closer to NC St).</p><p></p><p>The issue is, if you do away with cross-division games, you pretty much have to keep all of the NC nucleus together, and you have to move Virginia along with them. Then you'd have to move VT to match Virginia. So that's six schools in the geographical middle. I guess you could add Clemson and GT to that mix and call it a day, but then you'd have FSU and Miami playing the northern teams.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately the only way to preserve the 100+ year old rivalries that makes any sense is to keep the cross division games. With a 16 team league, I think you'd see an additional ninth conference game combined with not everyone plays each other within the division. Something like 6+3. I'd also be in favor of 7+2, so you play everyone in the division, a permanent "rival," and then another team from the other division - chosen based on the relative strength of your "rival."</p><p></p><p>Put differently - our "rival" is Clemson. They finished second in their division last year, so this year we would play Syracuse as our other division game. Miami, who I think plays FSU, would play Wake. The only issue is that goes both ways, so it may have to be a 6+3 configuration - i.e., we would play Clemson, Syracuse (the counter to our cross divisional rival), and Louisville (as the counter to their cross division rival). May be too complicated, but at least it addresses scheduling difficulties.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Legal Jacket, post: 177620, member: 601"] I think they would probably keep the cross division game, but my guess is clemson would be moved to our division. There could be a swap up between the Carolina and Virginia teams. It's a very similar problem recently confronted by the SEC. There is no way UNC and UVA won't play each other every year. They've done that every year since 1919, with the first game in 1892. Second longest continuous series in the ACC (first somehow being NC State - Wake Forest, which makes sense because I think Wake used to be located closer to NC St). The issue is, if you do away with cross-division games, you pretty much have to keep all of the NC nucleus together, and you have to move Virginia along with them. Then you'd have to move VT to match Virginia. So that's six schools in the geographical middle. I guess you could add Clemson and GT to that mix and call it a day, but then you'd have FSU and Miami playing the northern teams. Ultimately the only way to preserve the 100+ year old rivalries that makes any sense is to keep the cross division games. With a 16 team league, I think you'd see an additional ninth conference game combined with not everyone plays each other within the division. Something like 6+3. I'd also be in favor of 7+2, so you play everyone in the division, a permanent "rival," and then another team from the other division - chosen based on the relative strength of your "rival." Put differently - our "rival" is Clemson. They finished second in their division last year, so this year we would play Syracuse as our other division game. Miami, who I think plays FSU, would play Wake. The only issue is that goes both ways, so it may have to be a 6+3 configuration - i.e., we would play Clemson, Syracuse (the counter to our cross divisional rival), and Louisville (as the counter to their cross division rival). May be too complicated, but at least it addresses scheduling difficulties. [/QUOTE]
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