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<blockquote data-quote="takethepoints" data-source="post: 667313" data-attributes="member: 265"><p>I can speak to this, though from a very (believe it) dated perspective.</p><p></p><p>I played in both high school and college. I quit after my first year in college due to a second ACL in my right knee; there weren't any real treatments in those day besides a shot and exercises and I couldn't move on the field. But my coaches in both places were definitely not - I repeat strongly <em>not</em> - guys who made football fun. My college football practices were finely tuned torture sessions run by coaches who were both fair and feared. You had to earn their trust (as a frosh, I had absolutely none of that) by being tough in practice and in games. Breaking a smile in practice was grounds for being called out as not serious about winning. 20 of the team's starters had been at ACC or SEC schools before transferring and they all told me that at their old schools it was, if anything, even worse. And both in high school and in college my teams won. A lot. The college outfit was undefeated the year before I got there and lost one game the year I played.</p><p></p><p>And I actually enjoyed it. For one thing, I've always liked to hit and I got the opportunity. But it was more. We suffered, but it paid off. We never got much in the way of praise or recognition by the coaches, but it didn't signify; the team won and we knew it was largely because of them. And I made a few friendships as well.</p><p></p><p>Now you know one reason why I liked Paul and still feel ambivalent about Geoff. My coaches were <em>really</em> serious on the sidelines and in practice. The only fun we had was looking at the scoreboard and, believe me, that was enough.</p><p></p><p>But … my coaches weren't the only way to travel. I know that Dodd did things differently and got great results too. We'll just have to see if the "new culture" works. The way we'll find out - and the players will too - is when and if we start to win.</p><p></p><p>NB: I played at a Div 3 college. I'm not talking about a place like Tech, just the coaches's styles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takethepoints, post: 667313, member: 265"] I can speak to this, though from a very (believe it) dated perspective. I played in both high school and college. I quit after my first year in college due to a second ACL in my right knee; there weren't any real treatments in those day besides a shot and exercises and I couldn't move on the field. But my coaches in both places were definitely not - I repeat strongly [I]not[/I] - guys who made football fun. My college football practices were finely tuned torture sessions run by coaches who were both fair and feared. You had to earn their trust (as a frosh, I had absolutely none of that) by being tough in practice and in games. Breaking a smile in practice was grounds for being called out as not serious about winning. 20 of the team's starters had been at ACC or SEC schools before transferring and they all told me that at their old schools it was, if anything, even worse. And both in high school and in college my teams won. A lot. The college outfit was undefeated the year before I got there and lost one game the year I played. And I actually enjoyed it. For one thing, I've always liked to hit and I got the opportunity. But it was more. We suffered, but it paid off. We never got much in the way of praise or recognition by the coaches, but it didn't signify; the team won and we knew it was largely because of them. And I made a few friendships as well. Now you know one reason why I liked Paul and still feel ambivalent about Geoff. My coaches were [I]really[/I] serious on the sidelines and in practice. The only fun we had was looking at the scoreboard and, believe me, that was enough. But … my coaches weren't the only way to travel. I know that Dodd did things differently and got great results too. We'll just have to see if the "new culture" works. The way we'll find out - and the players will too - is when and if we start to win. NB: I played at a Div 3 college. I'm not talking about a place like Tech, just the coaches's styles. [/QUOTE]
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