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<blockquote data-quote="mj claz" data-source="post: 263844" data-attributes="member: 1801"><p>Obviously there are multiple factors that go into how good of a defense you will get. I'm not reducing it to ONLY talent even if my posts came across that way. My argument is that it's somewhere around 85% talent and 15% all other variables (including DC).</p><p></p><p>You mention 2009 being a below average defense, but why don't you bring up 2008? In comparing 2008 and 2009, you can pretty much hold all variables constant except for the players. The 2008 team had All-ACC performers Michael Johnson, Darryl Richard, and Vance Walker, in addition to Burnett and Morgan. This was far and away CPJ's best defense and it finished in the top 25 nationally. How can you possibly argue that other factors had an impact in this difference other than losing those impactful players? The coaches were the same, the ACC landscape was generally the same, etc.</p><p></p><p>I agree that 2009 was a failure by Dave Wommack and I believe it has been discussed on this board by former players how poor of a job he did. I'm not saying that coaches don't matter, they just matter much less than the players who actually play the games. Al Groh has a great resume and I'm sure he is a much better DC than Wommack, yet Wommack is the only DC under CPJ to field a top 25 defense. I think your comparison between the 2009 defense and 2016 defense is actually an endorsement for Roof since he doesn't have 1st round NFL talent on this roster and the ACC as a whole features much better offenses than in 2009. If Roof was coaching the 2009 defense right now, then I'd be much more anti-Roof. However, he hasn't had a fair shake and is actually helping to solve the problem that has done him in thus far. But yeah, let's get rid of him so that we can get some "fresh blood" in the program. That will really solve the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mj claz, post: 263844, member: 1801"] Obviously there are multiple factors that go into how good of a defense you will get. I'm not reducing it to ONLY talent even if my posts came across that way. My argument is that it's somewhere around 85% talent and 15% all other variables (including DC). You mention 2009 being a below average defense, but why don't you bring up 2008? In comparing 2008 and 2009, you can pretty much hold all variables constant except for the players. The 2008 team had All-ACC performers Michael Johnson, Darryl Richard, and Vance Walker, in addition to Burnett and Morgan. This was far and away CPJ's best defense and it finished in the top 25 nationally. How can you possibly argue that other factors had an impact in this difference other than losing those impactful players? The coaches were the same, the ACC landscape was generally the same, etc. I agree that 2009 was a failure by Dave Wommack and I believe it has been discussed on this board by former players how poor of a job he did. I'm not saying that coaches don't matter, they just matter much less than the players who actually play the games. Al Groh has a great resume and I'm sure he is a much better DC than Wommack, yet Wommack is the only DC under CPJ to field a top 25 defense. I think your comparison between the 2009 defense and 2016 defense is actually an endorsement for Roof since he doesn't have 1st round NFL talent on this roster and the ACC as a whole features much better offenses than in 2009. If Roof was coaching the 2009 defense right now, then I'd be much more anti-Roof. However, he hasn't had a fair shake and is actually helping to solve the problem that has done him in thus far. But yeah, let's get rid of him so that we can get some "fresh blood" in the program. That will really solve the problem. [/QUOTE]
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