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<blockquote data-quote="mj claz" data-source="post: 263681" data-attributes="member: 1801"><p>I agree with all of that and you are correct when you challenged my use of ONLY yards/attempt when evaluating a pass defense. However, I think it does the job just fine when we are talking about a big difference. Michigan State's 2013 defense gave up 5.2 yards/attempt and Pitt's 2016 pass defense gives up 8.5. One is a very good pass defense and one is very bad, both coached by Pat Narduzzi. No further analysis needed. With Duke, I was trying to compare its 2014 pass defense against its 2015/2016 pass defenses. I wasn't trying to compare the 2015 and 2016 groups because they are pretty similar (both bad) units and, you are correct, one single stat won't do the analysis justice.</p><p></p><p>I included the statistics for people who may not be as familiar with the non-GT defenses. But the stats weren't really necessary for these comparisons:</p><p>Narduzzi's MSU defenses>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Narduzzi's Pitt defenses</p><p>Wommack's Ole Miss defenses>>>>>>>>>>>Wommack's GT defenses</p><p>Auburn's 2016 defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Auburn's 2015 defense</p><p>Duke's 2014 defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duke's 2015/2016 defense</p><p></p><p>The main difference between these teams: PLAYERS. It's not the opponents, the DL coach, the schemes, etc. </p><p></p><p>The whole point was to prove that talent matters way more than the DC. If you asked me if I would rather have 2 first round defensive talents on this team, or a "first round" caliber DC (like Narduzzi or Muschamp), then I would definitely take the players. </p><p></p><p>If Roof wasn't showing improvement in recruiting over Groh and Wommack, then I'd say fire him! But he is. I believe we could do a better job at developing our talent as well, but I hold the positional coaches more accountable for that (maybe some former players could correct me here). I think Torrian Gray (VT DB coach) has had a huge impact on Bud Foster's success. And just as I judge Roof, I think we should fire the positional coaches UNLESS they are doing work on the recruiting trail. Only CPJ and Roof know the answer to that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mj claz, post: 263681, member: 1801"] I agree with all of that and you are correct when you challenged my use of ONLY yards/attempt when evaluating a pass defense. However, I think it does the job just fine when we are talking about a big difference. Michigan State's 2013 defense gave up 5.2 yards/attempt and Pitt's 2016 pass defense gives up 8.5. One is a very good pass defense and one is very bad, both coached by Pat Narduzzi. No further analysis needed. With Duke, I was trying to compare its 2014 pass defense against its 2015/2016 pass defenses. I wasn't trying to compare the 2015 and 2016 groups because they are pretty similar (both bad) units and, you are correct, one single stat won't do the analysis justice. I included the statistics for people who may not be as familiar with the non-GT defenses. But the stats weren't really necessary for these comparisons: Narduzzi's MSU defenses>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Narduzzi's Pitt defenses Wommack's Ole Miss defenses>>>>>>>>>>>Wommack's GT defenses Auburn's 2016 defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Auburn's 2015 defense Duke's 2014 defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Duke's 2015/2016 defense The main difference between these teams: PLAYERS. It's not the opponents, the DL coach, the schemes, etc. The whole point was to prove that talent matters way more than the DC. If you asked me if I would rather have 2 first round defensive talents on this team, or a "first round" caliber DC (like Narduzzi or Muschamp), then I would definitely take the players. If Roof wasn't showing improvement in recruiting over Groh and Wommack, then I'd say fire him! But he is. I believe we could do a better job at developing our talent as well, but I hold the positional coaches more accountable for that (maybe some former players could correct me here). I think Torrian Gray (VT DB coach) has had a huge impact on Bud Foster's success. And just as I judge Roof, I think we should fire the positional coaches UNLESS they are doing work on the recruiting trail. Only CPJ and Roof know the answer to that. [/QUOTE]
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