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<blockquote data-quote="Techster" data-source="post: 261917" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>That's a big misnomer of the 3-4 defense is you have to have 350 lb monster at NT. Does it help? Same way it helps with having a 350 DT in a 43 defense. But just having a 350lb guy at NT doesn't mean you're going to do well...as we saw with TJ Barnes, quite possibly the most physically imposing human during CPJ's tenure until Shamire stepped on campus. As with most things in football, it all depends on how you run it. </p><p></p><p>If you run a 34 with two-gap schemes, the big war daddy NT are a necessity. That's one of the things that got Groh in trouble is that he consistently tried to run a defense he didn't have the depth for (among a litany of other things). Because in this scheme the NT has to occupy two blockers instead of attacking a gap, physically you want someone like TJ Barnes and Brandon Adams...but they also have to be strong with good leverage, they can't just be a fata$$.</p><p></p><p>Now if you run a one gap 34 scheme, those giant NTs become less a necessity because now you're attacking gaps, and attacking upfield. In this scheme, you still want a NT around 300 lbs (and you could go lighter/heavier depending on the player's skillset), but quickness and strength are more of a necessity. </p><p></p><p>Just because Groh was horrible withe the 34 doesn't mean it doesn't work or isn't for GT. Same way you would view Roof's 43/425 defense. Just because it's not working for us right now doesn't mean it won't work for another coach who knows how to coach/teach it better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Techster, post: 261917, member: 360"] That's a big misnomer of the 3-4 defense is you have to have 350 lb monster at NT. Does it help? Same way it helps with having a 350 DT in a 43 defense. But just having a 350lb guy at NT doesn't mean you're going to do well...as we saw with TJ Barnes, quite possibly the most physically imposing human during CPJ's tenure until Shamire stepped on campus. As with most things in football, it all depends on how you run it. If you run a 34 with two-gap schemes, the big war daddy NT are a necessity. That's one of the things that got Groh in trouble is that he consistently tried to run a defense he didn't have the depth for (among a litany of other things). Because in this scheme the NT has to occupy two blockers instead of attacking a gap, physically you want someone like TJ Barnes and Brandon Adams...but they also have to be strong with good leverage, they can't just be a fata$$. Now if you run a one gap 34 scheme, those giant NTs become less a necessity because now you're attacking gaps, and attacking upfield. In this scheme, you still want a NT around 300 lbs (and you could go lighter/heavier depending on the player's skillset), but quickness and strength are more of a necessity. Just because Groh was horrible withe the 34 doesn't mean it doesn't work or isn't for GT. Same way you would view Roof's 43/425 defense. Just because it's not working for us right now doesn't mean it won't work for another coach who knows how to coach/teach it better. [/QUOTE]
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