Spring Game Significance

tmhunter52

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Of course, the game is important to sort out positions and depth chart, but does the game pose other opportunities and challenges this year? For example, will the percentages of running plays to passing plays, completion percentages of passes, the ability of the OL to pass block, stout or porous defense, etc. send meaningful signals to potential recruits this year more so than in previous years?
 

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Maybe.

Actually, I expect the team to suck in every area you have mentioned all through spring. You have to remember that we are installing new systems on both O and D. I'll be surprised - and pleased - if the coaches can get the guys on the same page half the time. There are two things that might make the transition easier.

First, the shotgun spread is a much easier O to call plays for and to block for. Most of the run plays are straight iso or dive plays or double options. All easy, peasy for most skill players. I expect that the QBs will come around first; all of them played in shotgun spreads in high school and very successfully to boot. The blocking is easier too; no more brush blocks, less pulling, not anywhere near as much emphasis on getting second level blocks. I expect the problem here will be breaking old habits rather then talent limits. But when you need new muscle memory and have to learn new plays things can get pesky.

Second, we were just in a 4 - 3 a couple of years ago so most of the D players have played in one in college. We don't know what kinds of players Coach is looking for over there and that's where I think a lot of his emphasis will be. He's a D specialist and knows what's doing. But … we don't know who will move where yet and it is likely that we'll have players in new positions early on in spring. Also, there's 4 - 3s and 4 - 3s; I expect that Coach has some pretty strong opinions about how he wants the D to work and that will require resets for the players with the inevitable screw-ups accompanying same.

But, imho, the sessions that will make or break the team going forward will be in the fall, not this spring. Everybody is about to be thrown into the pool without any swimming lessons. By fall, they might know a little better what they are doing.
 

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Generally speaking I think the Spring will be less informative than some of my fellow fans might think. We have heard the staff talk about conforming their O and D schemes around the returning talent that we have. That process will take a while. I think we will see some base sets ran during the Spring to help identify how guy respond to an environment larger than closed practices, but will see standard formations (the kinda thing we almost NEVER saw under CPJ years).

I think we will see more customization of the scheme to players as we move into Fall and am hoping that by the middle of the season we will start to see what type of balance the staff is looking for (run v pass) (Aggressive v React).
 

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Generally speaking I think the Spring will be less informative than some of my fellow fans might think. We have heard the staff talk about conforming their O and D schemes around the returning talent that we have. That process will take a while. I think we will see some base sets ran during the Spring to help identify how guy respond to an environment larger than closed practices, but will see standard formations (the kinda thing we almost NEVER saw under CPJ years).

I think we will see more customization of the scheme to players as we move into Fall and am hoping that by the middle of the season we will start to see what type of balance the staff is looking for (run v pass) (Aggressive v React).
If we're not seeing our D in the opposing backfield, it will say a lot and it ain't at all good.
 

vamosjackets

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QB position will be very intriguing.
I expect OL to take a LOT of work and be a stumbling block for a while.
The high level of play at the QB position could overcome a low level of play on the OL, OR, conversely (or is it inversely or contrapositively), a low level of play on the OL could produce a low level of play at the QB position.
I'm not really worried about RB or WR.

I do wonder how the offense and defense will compare/compete in the short term. I would normally expect the defense to be very much ahead of the offense in a transition, but our defense has been so bad compared to our offense over the last decade, will that mean that our defensive personnel issues will take more to overcome than offensive personnel issues? My guess is we will struggle about equally on both sides.

On a positive note, again, a special QB can make up for a lot, and we have a few pretty talented pieces on defense.
 

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It will be interesting no doubt, but I think the most valuable thing to fans and recruits will be if things are exciting, aggressive, high energy, organized, team-oriented, etc. You can't derive much meaning out of the results when you're playing yourself, particularly when the calls aren't supposed to mimic an actual game. But I think we can learn a lot about the direction of the program and quality of coaching through those other indicators.
 

dressedcheeseside

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But if we see the D in the backfield a lot during the spring game, there will be people complaining that our O line is horrible! ;)
Not necessarily. First of all, defenses are typically ahead of offenses in the spring. D is more reactionary. Second, and more importantly, what our offensive line is doing is way more different than last year than what our defensive line is doing. I expect them to struggle more.
 

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Not necessarily. First of all, defenses are typically ahead of offenses in the spring. D is more reactionary. Second, and more importantly, what our offensive line is doing is way more different than last year than what our defensive line is doing. I expect them to struggle more.
DCS, I hope you didn’t think I was giving you grief with my post. I was commenting on the folks that will be negative no matter what happens (although hopefully the anti-CPJ folks who would normally wait to see what happened before they decided what side of an argument they were on won’t be as vocal this year, so we won’t hear as many negatives).
 

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It will be interesting no doubt, but I think the most valuable thing to fans and recruits will be if things are exciting, aggressive, high energy, organized, team-oriented, etc. You can't derive much meaning out of the results when you're playing yourself, particularly when the calls aren't supposed to mimic an actual game. But I think we can learn a lot about the direction of the program and quality of coaching through those other indicators.

I agree with this. The atmosphere will be more important than the outcome. It is only a scrimmage game. You might be able to see inspiring play from one or several individuals, but efficiency of the new O or D won't be apparent. Also, you have to keep in mind that the coaches are calling plays for the O and the D. They can call plays to look for individual matchups or individual player adjustments. It is only a scrimmage game, so if those plays are wasted plays from a winning/losing standpoint it makes no difference.
 

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I see it as an emotional uplifting, knock the heck out of anybody, team building, fun, unorthodox, razzle dazzle, don’t show Clemson crap, brand the new staff, raucous Friday night in the 404. Pity the brick walls.

Don’t expect to learn a lot as a fan.

This staff knows what it wants and will have it figured out by then. Much less next August.
 
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