Spring Game 2026 - April 18th

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Isn't it funny that we never priortise giving our highly recruited backup QB's any playing time to develop and then become enamored with the transfers we bring in that have played significant minutes? Personally, I don't think we will ever achieve the success that we all want with such a system. We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.
Counterpoint. The literal National Champions at school known for being the literal losingest team in NCAA (until last year I believe, now they’re only 2nd losingest), turned it around primarily by utilizing the portal to prioritize playing experience.
 

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Isn't it funny that we never priortise giving our highly recruited backup QB's any playing time to develop and then become enamored with the transfers we bring in that have played significant minutes? Personally, I don't think we will ever achieve the success that we all want with such a system. We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.

Not bashing Knowles or Adamson, but which QB was "highly recruited"?

Knowles: 247 3 star QB. #44 QB in the country. Offered by UTSA, Memphis, CO State, UConn
Adamson: 247 3 star QB. #38 QB in the country. Offered by BYU, BC, Pitt, Syracus, South Florida, N. Texas, other smaller schools

Between the 2, Adamson had more P4 offers, but he was anything but "highly recruited".

Last season, which games did our coaches have the opportunity to play our backup QBs? GT only had 2 "blowouts" last season: Gardner Webb, Syracuse.

Our "highly recruited backup" did play those games, and that was Aaron Philo who started against Gardner Webb (King was nursing an injury), and came on in mop up duty against Syracuse. Knowles played a couple of series against Gardner Webb. Adamson was a true freshmen, so he was never going to get playing time over Philo or Knowles.

Adamson and Knowles have been at GT long enough for Key to know what they can and can't do. Key felt like they needed to bring in another QB with some experience to compete against Adamson and Knowles. Mendoza, Adamson, and Knowles had the same chance to win the QB1 job, and all 3 were starting at the same place with our new OC and offense. Mendoza ended up winning the QB1 job over Spring Practices.

We paid Philo a LOT of money last season to be King's backup, and we gave him reps in 2024 and 2025 with the plan he would be GT's QB....until he decided to follow our OC to UF. If you want to blame anyone, blame Philo for taking reps then leaving for UF.
 

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Counterpoint. The literal National Champions at school known for being the literal losingest team in NCAA (until last year I believe, now they’re only 2nd losingest), turned it around primarily by utilizing the portal to prioritize playing experience.

They literally went out and bought one of the best available QBs in the Portal after losing their Heisman winning QB to the NFL draft.

I'm not sure some GT fans understand that college sports is a completely different game now. Even when you plan for the future by developing players, a coach may not be able to enjoy the fruits of developing players because they can easily transfer out to another school. Aaron Philo and Isaiah Canion are examples of that. Philo was basically given the keys to the GT football kingdom, given all the reps behind King, was paid a LOT of money to be our backup, and was unquestionably our QB1 heading into 2026...and he still left for another school. GT was willing to match UF's money, but Philo wanted to follow Faulkner. Canion had injury issues coming out of HS, our coaches developed him into decent backup his freshmen year, he was our 3rd best WR his sophomore year, and he was also going to be our WR1 this year...then he chose to take the pile of cash UGA offered him.

It's a business now. Our coaches need to do what's best for the program overall, not what's best for a single player or making fans feel warm and fuzzy about backup players. Each season is now the most important season...not next year, not 2 years from now. Coaches simply can not depend on players sticking around long enough to make plans 2-3 years down the road anymore.
 

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We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.
1. We reached a higher level than where we'd been in a long time last year with a starting QB obtained through the portal.
2. In the last 3 CFB title games 5 of the 6 starting QBs were acquired through the portal.
3. The game has changed. It seems to me Tech gets that and that should make us all happy.
 

apatriot1776

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Isn't it funny that we never priortise giving our highly recruited backup QB's any playing time to develop and then become enamored with the transfers we bring in that have played significant minutes? Personally, I don't think we will ever achieve the success that we all want with such a system. We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.
Of the teams in the playoff last year, these were the QBs

Indiana - Portal
Miami - Portal
UGAg - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Texas Tech - Portal
Oregon - Portal
Ole Miss - Portal
Texas A&M - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 2 years)
Oklahoma - Portal
Alabama - Homegrown (5-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Tulane - Portal
JMU - Homegrown (portaled out after playoffs)

Unless you're an SEC program with the money to pay a blue-chip QB to sit behind your blue-chip QB... you reach the next level by depending on the portal for your starting QB
 

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To be fair, we haven't exactly had a plethora of games where we could trot out our 3rd and 4th string QB's lately. And by lately I am talking the 5 decades or so that i have followed GT FB. Our second string guy has gotten reps over the last two years and was being brought along appropriately (imo). Remember, the coaches have to balance winning now with developing players. And Key has admitted to oerhaps not playing some guys on both sides as soon as they should have. But not many programs, including the so called factories, are getting their 3rd and 4th string QB's a lot of reps during the season without unusual circiumstances (injuries being at the top of this list).
These coaches at P4 now make millions. They have to win in order to perpetuate that income, although the buyouts are ridiculous if they don't win enough. They will not take risks with an unproven qb unless they have no alternative. Before NIL and transfer portal, they were forced to develop their qb. Now they buy experience with someone elses money.
 

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These coaches at P4 now make millions. They have to win in order to perpetuate that income, although the buyouts are ridiculous if they don't win enough. They will not take risks with an unproven qb unless they have no alternative. Before NIL and transfer portal, they were forced to develop their qb. Now they buy experience with someone elses money.
Agree 100% with this, but even before NIL I don't think many coaches were fretting over developing 3rd and 4th string QB's by giving them in game reps.
 

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Of the teams in the playoff last year, these were the QBs

Indiana - Portal
Miami - Portal
UGAg - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Texas Tech - Portal
Oregon - Portal
Ole Miss - Portal
Texas A&M - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 2 years)
Oklahoma - Portal
Alabama - Homegrown (5-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Tulane - Portal
JMU - Homegrown (portaled out after playoffs)

Unless you're an SEC program with the money to pay a blue-chip QB to sit behind your blue-chip QB... you reach the next level by depending on the portal for your starting QB
You captured the action, but not sure you captured the reasons for the actions. Seems there is kind of a jump to a conclusion here when the motivations were varied.

Indiana: Mendoza was a very good QB for Cal, but he was trapped in a bad situation there with an unpopular HC and transferred out. Cal recruited a great FR QB to replace him.

Miami: Recruited Tyler Van Dyke in 2020 and he started 3 seasons there before he graduated and portaled out to Wisconsin for his SR season in November 2023. Miami then brought in elite QBs Cam Ward for 2024 and Carson Beck in 2025.

Ole Miss: Jackson Dart graduated after the 2024 season, leaving backup Austin Simmons as the starter for 2025. Meanwhile, D2 champ QB Trinidad Chambliss transferred in as Simmons’ backup, but Simmons got hurt and Chambliss assumed the starter role.

All three different scenarios, not just one program signing a transfer over sitting player waiting his turn.
 

apatriot1776

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You captured the action, but not sure you captured the reasons for the actions. Seems there is kind of a jump to a conclusion here when the motivations were varied.

Indiana: Mendoza was a very good QB for Cal, but he was trapped in a bad situation there with an unpopular HC and transferred out. Cal recruited a great FR QB to replace him.

Miami: Recruited Tyler Van Dyke in 2020 and he started 3 seasons there before he graduated and portaled out to Wisconsin for his SR season in November 2023. Miami then brought in elite QBs Cam Ward for 2024 and Carson Beck in 2025.

Ole Miss: Jackson Dart graduated after the 2024 season, leaving backup Austin Simmons as the starter for 2025. Meanwhile, D2 champ QB Trinidad Chambliss transferred in as Simmons’ backup, but Simmons got hurt and Chambliss assumed the starter role.

All three different scenarios, not just one program signing a transfer over sitting player waiting his turn.
Motivations vary and, though he wasn't mentioned, Mendoza is certainly a different circumstance than many of them. I'm very excited for Mendoza but would've welcomed a portal QB with more experience, especially a Mestemaker. That's the model most of these teams have followed
Moreso saying the idea that "depending on the portal for our QB bars us from the next level" is no longer true in 2026 CFB.
 

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Motivations vary and, though he wasn't mentioned, Mendoza is certainly a different circumstance than many of them. I'm very excited for Mendoza but would've welcomed a portal QB with more experience, especially a Mestemaker. That's the model most of these teams have followed
Moreso saying the idea that "depending on the portal for our QB bars us from the next level" is no longer true in 2026 CFB.
Is anyone making that last point? I haven’t read that, but maybe so. It is certainly a way forward, but we’re focused on the portal hits, not the misses, of which there are several notable examples. Cam Ward might even be listed… he had a great season but led Miami nowhere. Diego Pavia might be another. Another great season but what did Vandy actually accomplish on a national scale? Results are all over the place on these guys but it’s easy to focus on the wins.
 

apatriot1776

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Is anyone making that last point? I haven’t read that, but maybe so. It is certainly a way forward, but we’re focused on the portal hits, not the misses, of which there are several notable examples. Cam Ward might even be listed… he had a great season but led Miami nowhere. Diego Pavia might be another. Another great season but what did Vandy actually accomplish on a national scale?
The post I was replying to said that almost verbatim.
 

Root4GT

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Of the teams in the playoff last year, these were the QBs

Indiana - Portal
Miami - Portal
UGAg - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Texas Tech - Portal
Oregon - Portal
Ole Miss - Portal
Texas A&M - Homegrown (4-star they paid to sit for 2 years)
Oklahoma - Portal
Alabama - Homegrown (5-star they paid to sit for 3 years)
Tulane - Portal
JMU - Homegrown (portaled out after playoffs)

Unless you're an SEC program with the money to pay a blue-chip QB to sit behind your blue-chip QB... you reach the next level by depending on the portal for your starting QB
you missed Ohio State where the QB started at Alabama and transferred after Saban retired,
 

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Isn't it funny that we never priortise giving our highly recruited backup QB's any playing time to develop and then become enamored with the transfers we bring in that have played significant minutes? Personally, I don't think we will ever achieve the success that we all want with such a system. We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.
When we started blowing teams out we will see the backups get significant minutes. The problem last year is that we started slow almost every game and were winning games late in the 4th quarter. IMO, it is hard to justify playing the backup QBs if the team can't bury the opposition early and often.
 

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When we started blowing teams out we will see the backups get significant minutes. The problem last year is that we started slow almost every game and were winning games late in the 4th quarter. IMO, it is hard to justify playing the backup QBs if the team can't bury the opposition early and often.
The though of giving Back Up QB playing time in close games is simply absurd. Backups played 100% of the GW game. Temple was the only other game where GT had a fairly comfortable lead. Maybe Syracuse, however the defense was bad in both of those games.
 

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Isn't it funny that we never priortise giving our highly recruited backup QB's any playing time to develop and then become enamored with the transfers we bring in that have played significant minutes? Personally, I don't think we will ever achieve the success that we all want with such a system. We will never reach that next level in my opinion depending on the portal for our starting QB.
Uh we did give our backup qb minutes. And then he transferred to Florida. I don’t really get the point you’re trying to make. Did you want our coaches to have that foresight and play our 3rd and 4th string qb regularly too?
 

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I wish we could have portaled in a qb during the Gailey years
Gailey would not have done that.
He was apparently the only coach alive who thought Reggie was a QB and he spent 4 years trying make it work.
So we had a strong safety playing QB.
(Not Reggie's fault btw - I loved Reggie then & love him now, he gave all he had for the Jackets. But he was out of position)
 

JacketFan27

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Not bashing Knowles or Adamson, but which QB was "highly recruited"?

Knowles: 247 3 star QB. #44 QB in the country. Offered by UTSA, Memphis, CO State, UConn
Adamson: 247 3 star QB. #38 QB in the country. Offered by BYU, BC, Pitt, Syracus, South Florida, N. Texas, other smaller schools

Between the 2, Adamson had more P4 offers, but he was anything but "highly recruited".

Last season, which games did our coaches have the opportunity to play our backup QBs? GT only had 2 "blowouts" last season: Gardner Webb, Syracuse.

Our "highly recruited backup" did play those games, and that was Aaron Philo who started against Gardner Webb (King was nursing an injury), and came on in mop up duty against Syracuse. Knowles played a couple of series against Gardner Webb. Adamson was a true freshmen, so he was never going to get playing time over Philo or Knowles.

Adamson and Knowles have been at GT long enough for Key to know what they can and can't do. Key felt like they needed to bring in another QB with some experience to compete against Adamson and Knowles. Mendoza, Adamson, and Knowles had the same chance to win the QB1 job, and all 3 were starting at the same place with our new OC and offense. Mendoza ended up winning the QB1 job over Spring Practices.

We paid Philo a LOT of money last season to be King's backup, and we gave him reps in 2024 and 2025 with the plan he would be GT's QB....until he decided to follow our OC to UF. If you want to blame anyone, blame Philo for taking reps then leaving for UF.

Great post - just adding a bit more data:

247 Rankings when Each QB Came Out of HS (and new grade when they transferred)

Philo - 87 Player Rating, # 47 QB in Class - 3 Star - as a transfer, now an 89 Rating and # 17 Transfer QB Available
Adamson - 88 Rating, # 38 QB Class - 3 Star
Knowles - 87 Rating, # 46 QB in Class - 3 Star
Bergeron - 90 Rating, # 19 QB in Class - 4 Star
Alberto Mendoza - 82 Rating, # 137 QB in Class, 3 Star - as a transfer, he was upgraded to 86 Rating, # 31 Transfer QB Available
(Fernando Mendoza) - 83 Rating, # 134 QB in Class, 3 Star (obviously, went on to win Heisman) - as a transfer, 93 Rating, # 4 Transfer QB Available

These ratings - I think most can agree - are just generally accurate. 4 Star Rankings start at a 90 Rating. GT's recruiting coordinators and coaches are just fine. Getting Bergeron to Tech - IMHO - was a really big win (and he's sort of getting lost in the shuffle right now), as he threw the single best ball of any of our QB's in the spring game. Are we somewhat hopeful that Alberto has some of same elite traits as his brother - heck yes we are. Had our coaches seen enough of Adamson and Knowles to believe they might need another strong competitor in the QB room - again, yes. Go Jackets!
 
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