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When former players show up on campus the current players are more likely to open up to them about how they feel in their current situation and confidence in this staff. TStan will have to listen to what these guys have to say about the future of the program. The players may not be willing to open up directly.
 

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Then you are observing incorrectly. Most of the sacks are because the QB has about .2 seconds from the time he gets the snap until he starts having to run for his life while 4 of our 5 linemen stand around looking clueless and not blocking anyone.
This is a thread about Smelter that it feels suspiciously like is being turned into something else but, ok, I’ll go along with everyone.

CPJ’s offensive line was much better at pass blocking than this current offensive line and that is part of the reason Smelter was always open. But even if I concede that point to you I will go back to my original point which started all of this, and I will say it again, Smelter could teach our current receivers some things about how to get open.
 

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This is a thread about Smelter that it feels suspiciously like is being turned into something else but, ok, I’ll go along with everyone.

CPJ’s offensive line was much better at pass blocking than this current offensive line and that is part of the reason Smelter was always open. But even if I concede that point to you I will go back to my original point which started all of this, and I will say it again, Smelter could teach our current receivers some things about how to get open.
I think Smelter was open because nobody expected us to throw. I think the big thing is that we have a good former player who noticed some issues and wants to help. I would like to see an airplane load of good former players show up to help. That would be excellent.

Didn’t we lose Smelter during the UGA game on a tackle after the whistle?
 

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I'll just relay a story from the Georgia Tech radio show, I think it was last year before the Pitt game, when they were interviewing Smelter. They asked him about his big third-down catch (something like a 3rd and 17) to keep the game alive and beat Pitt on homecoming. I'm paraphrasing here:

"Coach was trying to think of a play to run, and he asked "can you run a post corner". I said coach that isn't even in our route tree. So I ran the worst post corner ever, but got open."

Loved Smelter. Probably had a chance at a pro career if not for the injury.
 

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I think Smelter was open because nobody expected us to throw. I think the big thing is that we have a good former player who noticed some issues and wants to help. I would like to see an airplane load of good former players show up to help. That would be excellent.

Didn’t we lose Smelter during the UGA game on a tackle after the whistle?
I think Smelter was open a lot, particularly under the zones, because he was a horse. He was 6'3" and 220, much larger then any WRs we have now. I remember him shrugging off DBs who were trying to get inside position on him. Our TEs should be doing this, of course, but until Yates became our QB they were forgotten men out there and none of them have Smelter's combo of size and speed. I look back fondly at the days when we had Smelter and Waller at WR and the general terror they brought on DBs everywhere. ("OMG! OMG! Is he going to hit me again?")

I think his help would be welcome, of course; it isn't all about size. It couldn't hurt to have him working with the WRs. As for Thomas: dude, come on down!
 

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I think Smelter was open because nobody expected us to throw. I think the big thing is that we have a good former player who noticed some issues and wants to help. I would like to see an airplane load of good former players show up to help. That would be excellent.

Didn’t we lose Smelter during the UGA game on a tackle after the whistle?
Smelter got open because he was able to separate and then drift into open spaces. He had a knack for finding the holes in the zone during scrambles by the QB.

I think Kyric McGowan has that same knack.
 

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Remember the triple option guys?

I get that most every Saturday before playing golf. With my waffle, sausage and eggs That's scattered, smothered and covered right? Sometimes, if I haven't been excessively bloated or constricted the night before, I get the quadruple option....that's scattered, smothered covered and capped. If I won at poker on Friday night, I get all that plus covered in Bert's chili. Yeah, you heard me. That's right but it ain't bragging if you back it up as they say. I was doing the WaHo thing before it was even a thing. Doing WaHo and the V on the same day (imo) seperates the pretenders from the contenders.

I think this gem here from an American icon sums it up, just in different words:

“It’s hard to say goodbye to the streets. It’s all how you do it. You can pass by and say, ‘What’s happening?’ and keep it moving, but it’s a certain element that will never be able to roll with you once you get to this level, because that’s the separation of it all.” – Snoop Dogg

I think we would all do well to keep these words in mind during these difficult and unprecedented times.
 

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I think Smelter was open a lot, particularly under the zones, because he was a horse. He was 6'3" and 220, much larger then any WRs we have now. I remember him shrugging off DBs who were trying to get inside position on him. Our TEs should be doing this, of course, but until Yates became our QB they were forgotten men out there and none of them have Smelter's combo of size and speed. I look back fondly at the days when we had Smelter and Waller at WR and the general terror they brought on DBs everywhere. ("OMG! OMG! Is he going to hit me again?")

I think his help would be welcome, of course; it isn't all about size. It couldn't hurt to have him working with the WRs. As for Thomas: dude, come on down!
Oh I miss our passing game with those guys 😊!

So many games when it was 3rd and long or even 4th and long and these guys managed to get open.
 

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I think Smelter was open because nobody expected us to throw. I think the big thing is that we have a good former player who noticed some issues and wants to help. I would like to see an airplane load of good former players show up to help. That would be excellent.

Didn’t we lose Smelter during the UGA game on a tackle after the whistle?
Nobody expected us to throw?

That was our MO. Bash the line over and over and set up the pass. Defensive coaches worked over time trying to scheme against receivers that had some the biggest yards per catch numbers in the nation.

Remember Waller in the Orange Bowl and the color analyst with the classic Tech mantra “When we throw it we mean it”?
 

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I'll just relay a story from the Georgia Tech radio show, I think it was last year before the Pitt game, when they were interviewing Smelter. They asked him about his big third-down catch (something like a 3rd and 17) to keep the game alive and beat Pitt on homecoming. I'm paraphrasing here:

"Coach was trying to think of a play to run, and he asked "can you run a post corner". I said coach that isn't even in our route tree. So I ran the worst post corner ever, but got open."

Loved Smelter. Probably had a chance at a pro career if not for the injury.
PJ drawing it up in the dirt. Old school
 

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Ironically, I saw a bunch of open receivers the past two games and our QB just not able to get the ball there on time, or even just there sometimes. Part of that is him running for his life, part of that is him just not having the arm strength to make it there on time.
 

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I think Smelter was open because nobody expected us to throw. I think the big thing is that we have a good former player who noticed some issues and wants to help. I would like to see an airplane load of good former players show up to help. That would be excellent.

Didn’t we lose Smelter during the UGA game on a tackle after the whistle?

Stupid mutts.
Imagine if we had Smelter for the ACC Championship. We might have gone 12-2 and Smelter selected way higher during draft.
 

DavidStandingBear

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There are guys getting open. We just haven’t had the protection to find them or the QB has missed.

That being said, Smelter was fantastic at finding soft spots in zones as well as attacking the ball in the air. Any help he provides would be a plus.

We need Morgan Burnette, Jemea Thomas, and Chris Milton to work with the DBs more than anything.
Awesome, since we can’t have monken, we can at least
have CPJ players come back to help out
 
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