Should Tech Go Private?

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

By way this is a blog about sports, gt sports, gt football.
Not sure how I got lumped into pro nfl football on campus. Also if u have looked at my postings - I am the pro GT should be the Stanford of the south. That means to get in the SAT s need to go up. Back a few years back I posted that we need to have a stports managent degree that is built on the principals of Hiesman, Dodd, Broyles, Rice while having high academics and a strong technology setting.
Since u didn't find it, I guess I will find the uga and gt record and post it. Hard to think that does not need fixing.
In 65_68 we lost every damn time and I am still mad.

I think Rice tried to get a sports management degree and it was vetoed by the BOR.

 

[LongforDodd]

..., it is based solely on financial need. A student (or parents) pays what they can afford to pay. If 100% scholarship or grant money is needed for a student and the student is accepted the money is there for that student.

That sounds much like what the IV's do. Everything is "need based" as they say. Parents "contribute" based on income and the rest is/are grants. Students are allowed to borrow but that is capped.

 

[OldJacketFan]

That sounds much like what the IV's do. Everything is "need based" as they say. Parents "contribute" based on income and the rest is/are grants. Students are allowed to borrow but that is capped.

I know at Vandy no student is borrowing unless for some reason they as individuals decide to do so. Per our own experience if you're admitted you should have no need to go into debt as an undergraduate. Admission is the tough part. My daughter was a non traditional student and acceptance rate for those students is minuscule!

 

[LongforDodd]

I know at Vandy no student is borrowing unless for some reason they as individuals decide to do so. Per our own experience if you're admitted you should have no need to go into debt as an undergraduate. Admission is the tough part. My daughter was a non traditional student and acceptance rate for those students is minuscule!

My son is a Dartmouth grad. His mom and I "contributed" based on income, he borrowed some and it was capped, and got a good bit of grant money. They are all like that...at least in the late 90's and no scholarships given even to athletes. From what you cited regarding Vandy, I had thought they might have been copying the Ivy League's model

 

[Squints]

My son is a Dartmouth grad. His mom and I "contributed" based on income, he borrowed some and it was capped, and got a good bit of grant money. They are all like that...at least in the late 90's and no scholarships given even to athletes. From what you cited regarding Vandy, I had thought they might have been copying the Ivy League's model

From what I understand it's very similar but not quite. I think they'll give full scholarships to those with a "special talent" or something similar that will "benefit" the university. It's one of the reasons their baseball team is so ridiculous and they constantly pull in huge recruiting classes in that sport. They can offer every kid who comes to play baseball a full ride while most other schools flat out can't due to the rules. It's not an NCAA violation because they'll do it for non-athletes as well.

 

[iceeater1969]

My son is a Dartmouth grad. His mom and I "contributed" based on income, he borrowed some and it was capped, and got a good bit of grant money. They are all like that...at least in the late 90's and no scholarships given even to athletes. From what you cited regarding Vandy, I had thought they might have been copying the Ivy League's model

The Dartmouth mascot
KEGGIE.
A STAINLESS STEEL BEER KEG.
GREAT!

 

[iceeater1969]

I think Rice tried to get a sports management degree and it was vetoed by the BOR.

Yea, we are about down to Rice.

 

[RonJohn]

By way this is a blog about sports, gt sports, gt football.
Not sure how I got lumped into pro nfl football on campus. Also if u have looked at my postings - I am the pro GT should be the Stanford of the south. That means to get in the SAT s need to go up. Back a few years back I posted that we need to have a stports managent degree that is built on the principals of Hiesman, Dodd, Broyles, Rice while having high academics and a strong technology setting.
Since u didn't find it, I guess I will find the uga and gt record and post it. Hard to think that does not need fixing.
In 65_68 we lost every damn time and I am still mad.

I do understand that this forum is about football. This thread however is about something that would affect academics, athletics, culture, and much more. How privatization would affect academics and culture would be more important to me than how it would affect athletics. My opinion on that would not change whether posting on an athletic forum, or an academic forum.

I wasn't trying to say that you in particular support pro football on campus. I was trying to say that across the NCAA, schools should be competing against each other, not trying to field semi-pro teams.

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Yea, we are about down to Rice.

Not sure what you mean by that, but I was referring to what Homer Rice tried to do at Tech. Sounds like you are referring to Rice University.

 

[iceeater1969]

Not sure what you mean by that, but I was referring to what Homer Rice tried to do at Tech. Sounds like you are referring to Rice University.

Oh, I thought u were saying Rice U tried this. That made me wonder if we were that low.

Would like to find out what the reasoning was for being turned down. Probably not technical enough - and we need some bio types. Everything leads back to needing a very close relationship w emory.

With the veto of the instate GT grads who want to keep tuition low, this idea is DOA .

 

[Supersizethatorder-mutt]

Oh, I thought u were saying Rice U tried this. That made me wonder if we were that low.

Would like to find out what the reasoning was for being turned down. Probably not technical enough - and we need some bio types. Everything leads back to needing a very close relationship w emory.

With the veto of the instate GT grads who want to keep tuition low, this idea is DOA .

The reasoning was that it did not fit their idea of an engineering curriculum, and it was probably already something offered at the cesspool.

 

[link3945]

The more interesting option to me is to split the University System of Georgia in half, similar to California and Texas. Have half under the Georgia Tech system and the other half under the uga system.

 

[OldJacketFan]

One negative that caught my eye and I'm not sure where the foundation of it came from is the idea in state tuition would change for the worst. As I noted Vandy accepts TN's Hope scholarship funds and have maintained their in state tuition rate. If Tech navigates this correctly I don't see a negative impact for in state students. After all, that are the backbone of the student population and I can't foresee that changing. If Tech takes the same stance as Vandy regarding students graduation with zero debt why would rates suffer?

 

[OldJacketFan]

The more interesting option to me is to split the University System of Georgia in half, similar to California and Texas. Have half under the Georgia Tech system and the other half under the uga system.

Hmmm hadn't thought of that approach.

 

[OldJacketFan]

Well about 24 hours plus since I put this up and the poll is 52/48 in favor. Interesting Lots of good, thought provoking comments!

 

[GTFLETCH]

The way we have played Men's Basketball & Football the last 20 years we should think about joining the AAC! Athletically we look and play more like Houston than FSU! We are a G5 school in a P5 world!

 

[jwsavhGT]

The way we have played Men's Basketball & Football the last 20 years we should think about joining the AAC! Athletically we look and play more like Houston than FSU! We are a G5 school in a P5 world!

nm

 

[iceeater1969]

Well about 24 hours plus since I put this up and the poll is 52/48 in favor. Interesting Lots of good, thought provoking comments!

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Thanks for the thread.
Good ideas - to try to give gt some changes to keep or improve us academically while lessening the uga advantage on football field. Adding a dash of Stanford to Ga Tech would be good for us, atl, the state and would not impact uga. However since it would lessen the uga advantage over gt in football, it will not happen if they can stop it.

 

[DCSS]

This is about as pie in the sky as thinking we'd be the Notre Dame of the South.

I suppose I could say I graduated from EIT* when it was a state school.

*Emory Institute of Technology

I don't think anybody really wants this. A losing season or two makes us fans say some really dumb ****. Always has. Always will.

 

[Skeptic]

The way we have played Men's Basketball & Football the last 20 years we should think about joining the AAC! Athletically we look and play more like Houston than FSU! We are a G5 school in a P5 world!

Well, Houston was pretty good this season.