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<blockquote data-quote="iggymcfly" data-source="post: 112649" data-attributes="member: 1915"><p>It's funny how the betting market (group of experts looking at things as objectively as possible with millions of dollars on the line) and Sagarin (objective computer ranking deriving numbers solely from the scores of the games) both rate the SEC much, much higher than ESPN who's supposedly biased in favor of them.</p><p></p><p>Here are the ratings of the top 12 SEC teams according to the betting market:</p><p><a href="http://stats.inpredictable.com/rankings/ncaaf.php" target="_blank">http://stats.inpredictable.com/rankings/ncaaf.php</a></p><p></p><p>2. Alabama</p><p>5. Auburn</p><p>6. Georgia</p><p>7. Mississippi State</p><p>14. Ole Miss</p><p>16. LSU</p><p>19. Arkansas</p><p>22. Florida</p><p>28. Missouri</p><p>30. Texas A&M</p><p>33. South Carolina</p><p>34. Tennessee</p><p></p><p>And here they are by Sagarin, the top computer ranking:</p><p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/</a></p><p></p><p>1. Alabama</p><p>4. Ole Miss</p><p>6. Mississippi State</p><p>8. Georgia</p><p>9. Auburn</p><p>11. LSU</p><p>13. Arkansas</p><p>16. Missouri</p><p>20. Texas A&M</p><p>21. Florida</p><p>29. Tennessee</p><p>37. South Carolina</p><p></p><p>Tells a pretty similar tale, doesn't it? Both clearly show that the SEC has gotten BETTER, not worse to the point that they're more dominant than ever and even their 12th best team would be above average in the ACC or Big Ten.</p><p></p><p>I keep hearing the 4-0 thing brought up a lot, and while that was a great moment in time for our conference, it doesn't really tell the tale. First off, we actually went 4-1 vs. the SEC this year, not 4-0 as Clemson's loss to Georgia was every bit as legitimate as the other games. Secondly, all 5 of the inter-conference games involved the ACC's Top 4 teams by Sagarin (1. FSU, 2. GT, 3. Clemson x2, 4. Louisville) while on average we faced a below average slate from the SEC (4. Georgia x2, 10. Florida, 12. South Carolina, 13. Kentucky). Can you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and the 5 games were (1. Alabama, 2. Ole Miss, 3. Mississippi State x2, 4. Georgia) facing off against (4. Louisville x2, 10. Pittsburgh, 12. North Carolina, 13. Syracuse)? If we went 1-4 in those matchups, we'd consider ourselves lucky.</p><p></p><p>Now, I do think the ACC's getting better as a conference. We've made incremental progress each of the past 4 years, and if we keep getting better, we should win more recruiting battles to the point that maybe 5 or 6 years down the line we'll be able to compete with the SEC on even terms. When we just keep mindlessly downgrading them as they dominate though, using cute little catch-phrases like SECSPN, it just makes us look like delusional homers incapable of looking at things rationally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iggymcfly, post: 112649, member: 1915"] It's funny how the betting market (group of experts looking at things as objectively as possible with millions of dollars on the line) and Sagarin (objective computer ranking deriving numbers solely from the scores of the games) both rate the SEC much, much higher than ESPN who's supposedly biased in favor of them. Here are the ratings of the top 12 SEC teams according to the betting market: [url]http://stats.inpredictable.com/rankings/ncaaf.php[/url] 2. Alabama 5. Auburn 6. Georgia 7. Mississippi State 14. Ole Miss 16. LSU 19. Arkansas 22. Florida 28. Missouri 30. Texas A&M 33. South Carolina 34. Tennessee And here they are by Sagarin, the top computer ranking: [url]http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/[/url] 1. Alabama 4. Ole Miss 6. Mississippi State 8. Georgia 9. Auburn 11. LSU 13. Arkansas 16. Missouri 20. Texas A&M 21. Florida 29. Tennessee 37. South Carolina Tells a pretty similar tale, doesn't it? Both clearly show that the SEC has gotten BETTER, not worse to the point that they're more dominant than ever and even their 12th best team would be above average in the ACC or Big Ten. I keep hearing the 4-0 thing brought up a lot, and while that was a great moment in time for our conference, it doesn't really tell the tale. First off, we actually went 4-1 vs. the SEC this year, not 4-0 as Clemson's loss to Georgia was every bit as legitimate as the other games. Secondly, all 5 of the inter-conference games involved the ACC's Top 4 teams by Sagarin (1. FSU, 2. GT, 3. Clemson x2, 4. Louisville) while on average we faced a below average slate from the SEC (4. Georgia x2, 10. Florida, 12. South Carolina, 13. Kentucky). Can you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and the 5 games were (1. Alabama, 2. Ole Miss, 3. Mississippi State x2, 4. Georgia) facing off against (4. Louisville x2, 10. Pittsburgh, 12. North Carolina, 13. Syracuse)? If we went 1-4 in those matchups, we'd consider ourselves lucky. Now, I do think the ACC's getting better as a conference. We've made incremental progress each of the past 4 years, and if we keep getting better, we should win more recruiting battles to the point that maybe 5 or 6 years down the line we'll be able to compete with the SEC on even terms. When we just keep mindlessly downgrading them as they dominate though, using cute little catch-phrases like SECSPN, it just makes us look like delusional homers incapable of looking at things rationally. [/QUOTE]
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