Sarkisian

[grandpa jacket]

Has zero imagination in offense, why always run the ball on 1st down.

 

[awbuzz]

QB Ewers limited mobility hurt them.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Texas offensive line may not be as good as Tech. Even when King or Philo drop back in the pocket they were almost never sacked. Quick release also helps.

I like our offense, when everybody is healthy, better than most anyone else.

 

[LargeFO]

Ewers stinks.

 

[1979jacket]

Ewers stinks.

I tend to agree and am astounded that Archie couldn't beat him out. Coaches were at practice, not me, but when you look at the two in terms of talent it looks like a mismatch in favor of Manning.

 

[SoMsJacket]

Internet chatter says Archie is overrated. Looks like a pro QB, makes the pro QB throws in practice, is slow to read the defence, slow decision making and slow release.

 

[Yoda]

You gotta beat uga by lining up and playing smash mouth football. UGA can shut down fitness teams. They don’t want anyone that slaps them in the mouth.

 

[Thwg777]

You gotta beat uga by lining up and playing smash mouth football. UGA can shut down fitness teams. They don’t want anyone that slaps them in the mouth.

I’m questioning my own sanity but am considering backing Notre Dame in the playoffs at 12-1 odds.

I think they’ll handle Indiana and believe they match up well with the dwags for this same reason.

 

[Fatmike91]

I’m questioning my own sanity but am considering backing Notre Dame in the playoffs at 12-1 odds.

I think they’ll handle Indiana and believe they match up well with the dwags for this same reason.

You're not crazy.

I think we'll see an SEC flame out.

ND had a single terrible game. Other than that they are the best team in college football (along with Oregon).

/

 

[Northeast Stinger]

You gotta beat uga by lining up and playing smash mouth football. UGA can shut down fitness teams. They don’t want anyone that slaps them in the mouth.

We aren’t exactly smash mouth on offense. Others have argued with me on this but I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise. We use misdirection and motion to freeze defenders, along with some confusing eye candy. This is different from power against power when everyone on both sides of the line knows what’s coming and tees off. On those few times when we run straight power, as in short yardage situations, we are not nearly as effective and sometimes get stuffed.

Traps and sealing off lanes, as well as optioning against an unblocked defender is part of the finesse of this offense. We certainly can hold blocks, as well as pancake block, and certainly can overload blockers at the point of attack but this is not a straight power team as I understand the concept.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

I’m questioning my own sanity but am considering backing Notre Dame in the playoffs at 12-1 odds.

I think they’ll handle Indiana and believe they match up well with the dwags for this same reason.

Notre Dame looks stout and sound right now. But I’ve been fooled several times this year about who matches up well with who.

 

[MacJacket]

Imagine keeping a mobile QB on the bench after Haynes King cooked the GA defense just last week.

 

[Blue&Gold1034]

We aren’t exactly smash mouth on offense. Others have argued with me on this but I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise. We use misdirection and motion to freeze defenders, along with some confusing eye candy. This is different from power against power when everyone on both sides of the line knows what’s coming and tees off. On those few times when we run straight power, as in short yardage situations, we are not nearly as effective and sometimes get stuffed.

Traps and sealing off lanes, as well as optioning against an unblocked defender is part of the finesse of this offense. We certainly can hold blocks, as well as pancake block, and certainly can overload blockers at the point of attack but this is not a straight power team as I understand the concept.

Serious question. What is a power offense? Do you think Brent Key would describe this team as finesse?

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

You're not crazy.

I think we'll see an SEC flame out.

ND had a single terrible game. Other than that they are the best team in college football (along with Oregon).

/

Both are y’all are right. The SEC has not looked like the dominant conference this year. Unless things change. We went toe to toe with their champ.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Serious question. What is a power offense? Do you think Brent Key would describe this team as finesse?

Good question. More and more teams seem to be running some kind of spread option offense. It’s like a CPJ offense only the QB is in shotgun and throws the ball in place of wide tosses, pitches and handoffs. And traps seem to be run more often than off tackle plays or B-back up the middle.

It’s harder for me to think of power teams anymore other than a team like Army. Alabama spent most of the last decade as a power team. Same for Michigan and Ohio State. But spreading the field seems to be a fixture now and when you do that it changes the calculus. You can run a traditional power play, say dive up the middle or off tackle, but when spread out, beating a man one on one is critical. If the defender beats a blocker the play can go for a significant loss. A true power team would double down on another run up the middle with “traditional” blocking but almost nobody does that anymore.

 

[iceeater1969]

Both are y’all are right. The SEC has not looked like the dominant conference this year. Unless things change. We went toe to toe with their champ.

I wear gt shirts all the time.

After Uga 8 OT, I have been treated like an old friend who just won the lottery. Strangers and friends come up and talk about the game. Maybe they are saying they are happy for me and no longer think of me riding around in my 100-0 ALL RED clown car.

 

[Blue&Gold1034]

Good question. More and more teams seem to be running some kind of spread option offense. It’s like a CPJ offense only the QB is in shotgun and throws the ball in place of wide tosses, pitches and handoffs. And traps seem to be run more often than off tackle plays or B-back up the middle.

It’s harder for me to think of power teams anymore other than a team like Army. Alabama spent most of the last decade as a power team. Same for Michigan and Ohio State. But spreading the field seems to be a fixture now and when you do that it changes the calculus. You can run a traditional power play, say dive up the middle or off tackle, but when spread out, beating a man one on one is critical. If the defender beats a blocker the play can go for a significant loss. A true power team would double down on another run up the middle with “traditional” blocking but almost nobody does that anymore

But Army uses a lot of motions and reading the unblocked defenders in their offense. Alabama at the beginning of Nick Sagan's tenure ran inside and outside zone for the majority of their plays, not dives or off tackles. Michigan with Harbaugh ran a combination of counter, zone, and power for their run game. As for Ohio State, under Urban Meyer they have run very similar schemes that Tech has, zone and counter while having option plays off those blocks. When Urban got to Florida, many stated that he was marrying the "power football" of the SEC with the spread offense that was used elsewhere. Counters, traps, iso, option, and power (the run play) have all been in the game for a long time and have been utilized by many traditional power football teams like the old Nebraska and Wisconsin teams. I don't see spreading the formations out as a not being power, but just an evolution of the power run game as shown by Urban Meyer's and Gus Malzahn's offenses.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

We aren’t exactly smash mouth on offense. Others have argued with me on this but I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise. We use misdirection and motion to freeze defenders, along with some confusing eye candy. This is different from power against power when everyone on both sides of the line knows what’s coming and tees off. On those few times when we run straight power, as in short yardage situations, we are not nearly as effective and sometimes get stuffed.

Traps and sealing off lanes, as well as optioning against an unblocked defender is part of the finesse of this offense. We certainly can hold blocks, as well as pancake block, and certainly can overload blockers at the point of attack but this is not a straight power team as I understand the concept.

King is perfect for our offense. He makes good reads on the option and must be accounted for on every running play just about. The eye candy, the misdirection, the look here don't look there offense is difficult for teams that have to respect the pass as well. Tech's version is not for everyone but is hard to execute if you don't have a King to run it.

 

[Heisman's Ghost]

We aren’t exactly smash mouth on offense. Others have argued with me on this but I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise. We use misdirection and motion to freeze defenders, along with some confusing eye candy. This is different from power against power when everyone on both sides of the line knows what’s coming and tees off. On those few times when we run straight power, as in short yardage situations, we are not nearly as effective and sometimes get stuffed.

Traps and sealing off lanes, as well as optioning against an unblocked defender is part of the finesse of this offense. We certainly can hold blocks, as well as pancake block, and certainly can overload blockers at the point of attack but this is not a straight power team as I understand the concept.

Remarkable isn't it? A mid tier ACC team takes a loaded football factory like UGA to the wire but another SEC powerhouse looks pedestrian in comparison, twice as a matter of fact. I think it has to do with the way Tech runs its offense with King. UGA's defense was on skates most of the game against Tech. I can't say I blame them for being hesitant. If it were me, I would crowd the line of scrimmage against Tech and take my chances in trying to force King into making quick decisions but others more knowledgeable may disagree. Understanding that if you miss him or Jamal you will have a track meet on your hands, as it does not take much of a crease for either of them to be off to the races.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

But Army uses a lot of motions and reading the unblocked defenders in their offense. Alabama at the beginning of Nick Sagan's tenure ran inside and outside zone for the majority of their plays, not dives or off tackles. Michigan with Harbaugh ran a combination of counter, zone, and power for their run game. As for Ohio State, under Urban Meyer they have run very similar schemes that Tech has, zone and counter while having option plays off those blocks. When Urban got to Florida, many stated that he was marrying the "power football" of the SEC with the spread offense that was used elsewhere. Counters, traps, iso, option, and power (the run play) have all been in the game for a long time and have been utilized by many traditional power football teams like the old Nebraska and Wisconsin teams. I don't see spreading the formations out as a not being power, but just an evolution of the power run game as shown by Urban Meyer's and Gus Malzahn's offenses.

I understand the argument. My question is, “What constitutes an over statement in either direction in power versus finesse determination?” I think, philosophically, there is difference in how different teams conceive of the line of scrimmage and what it means to control that line. I hope we would agree that not everyone runs a power offense and I hope we would agree that not everyone runs a finesse offense. And no one runs a pure vanilla version of either one. I think if you are philosophically committed to “smash mouth” as it was stated, you are probably running more zone blocking and drive blocking and relying less on traps and sealing off lanes. Misdirection alone does not constitute a particular philosophy.

I guess for me one way I distinguish a true power team is this. When a team lines up with a tight formation with three tight ends in an obvious running situation are they successful? I know I’m in danger of being overly simplistic but smash mouth teams tend to make those yards every time in those situations and teams that are more finesse tend not to.

I haven’t studied the film of our Syracuse game but my memory is that, for all their talk of having a power running team, in several short yardage situations we controlled the line of scrimmage and would have stuffed the play but they ran wide or threw wide and avoided the middle.

Not much under center power plays anymore for sure.