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<blockquote data-quote="GTpdm" data-source="post: 269566" data-attributes="member: 1451"><p>Given how often I hear people on this board complain about our recruiting difficulties, why even post a comment like this? Does anyone really think that complaints about how we "try to fail students" at Tech won't deter potential recruits?</p><p></p><p>Besides--"they" (the Institute) has never tried to fail students--and by "they", I really mean "I personally, and no one I ever worked with in my 20 years teaching a so-called 'weedout' course at Tech".</p><p></p><p>You do realize that a teacher trying to actively fail students constitutes professional misconduct along the lines of a doctor trying to kill patients he deems undeserving of life, don't you? Is that really the the level of respect that you have for your alma mater, that you would accuse the faculty as a whole of <u>systematic</u> professional misconduct?</p><p></p><p>Yes, Tech is hard--but the faculty bust their asses to make that challenge manageable for as many students as possible. Not all profs are as good at it as I am (or as humble )--but then again, not all students come straight from Lake Wobegone. You would not believe some of the abject slackerhood I have to contend with (on a regular basis) in the courses I teach. Thankfully, <u>most</u> Tech students really <em>are</em> "all that"--and they are the only reason I haven't quit my job to become a pet groomer or something.</p><p></p><p>Don't assume the worst about The Institute (and yes--"trying to fail students" is the worst thing we could do) just because you had some bad experiences in hard classes. Tech expects a lot because the employers who hire our graduates expect a lot.</p><p></p><p>The challenges I faced at Tech are the best things that happened to me in my life (particularly, meeting [USER=1447]@YJAlleyCat[/USER] there and--eventually--winning her over). You will never catch me bad-mouthing any part of that experience, no matter how tough it was.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTpdm, post: 269566, member: 1451"] Given how often I hear people on this board complain about our recruiting difficulties, why even post a comment like this? Does anyone really think that complaints about how we "try to fail students" at Tech won't deter potential recruits? Besides--"they" (the Institute) has never tried to fail students--and by "they", I really mean "I personally, and no one I ever worked with in my 20 years teaching a so-called 'weedout' course at Tech". You do realize that a teacher trying to actively fail students constitutes professional misconduct along the lines of a doctor trying to kill patients he deems undeserving of life, don't you? Is that really the the level of respect that you have for your alma mater, that you would accuse the faculty as a whole of [U]systematic[/U] professional misconduct? Yes, Tech is hard--but the faculty bust their asses to make that challenge manageable for as many students as possible. Not all profs are as good at it as I am (or as humble )--but then again, not all students come straight from Lake Wobegone. You would not believe some of the abject slackerhood I have to contend with (on a regular basis) in the courses I teach. Thankfully, [U]most[/U] Tech students really [I]are[/I] "all that"--and they are the only reason I haven't quit my job to become a pet groomer or something. Don't assume the worst about The Institute (and yes--"trying to fail students" is the worst thing we could do) just because you had some bad experiences in hard classes. Tech expects a lot because the employers who hire our graduates expect a lot. The challenges I faced at Tech are the best things that happened to me in my life (particularly, meeting [USER=1447]@YJAlleyCat[/USER] there and--eventually--winning her over). You will never catch me bad-mouthing any part of that experience, no matter how tough it was. [/QUOTE]
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