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<blockquote data-quote="steebu" data-source="post: 256758" data-attributes="member: 740"><p>I really dislike this argument. </p><p></p><p>Both Stanford and GT are good schools with high academic reputations. If a guy can get into GT he has the capacity to excel at GT academically. Same goes for Stanford. The APR enforces that academic schools maintain their APR, and as PJ points out, punishes them to a degree. </p><p></p><p>The academic difference between Stanford and GT isn't difficulty of curriculum, it's <strong>variety of majors.</strong></p><p></p><p>Among Stanford's starting 22 there are 9 different majors represented, with the most being ... Undeclared (6). The next highest is 4 each of "Science, Technology and Society", "Management Science and Engineering", and "Communication".</p><p></p><p>Among GT's starting 22 there are 6 different majors represented (including Undeclared, 1), with the most being Management ... with <strong>THIRTEEN</strong>.</p><p></p><p>So 27% of Stanford's kids are undeclared, 18% are majoring in STS, 18% in MSE, and 18% in Communication. Meanwhile, 60% of GT's starting 22 is majoring in MGMT. <strong>The problem is not difficulty in academics, it's variety of majors. </strong></p><p></p><p>PJ: "Hey smart 4* kid with the 4.0 GA. Wanna come to GT? We have great academics."</p><p>4* Kid: "Awesome! I wanna be on NFL Countdown someday. Do you have a communications major? You're right next to CNN!"</p><p>PJ: "No, but you can study calculus while you take Management."</p><p>4* Kid: "Guess it's off to Stanford for me."</p><p></p><p>I am not suggesting that we "dumb down" the academics for football players. The academics and rigor of GT is what makes GT, well, GT. I sat in my freshman CS orientation and they did the whole, "look to your left, look to your right, those guys will flunk out" bit way back in the day. And guess what? Those guys flunked out (I escaped with two CS degrees ... so I was a glutton for punishment I guess). But my point is that you can add majors without watering down the curriculum to give a bit more variety. We will never have African Studies, Japanese, or Theater Performance Studies like Stanford. But there's no reason why we can't have a Technical Communications major. Well, yes there is, the Board of Regents.</p><p></p><p>When you compare academics at GT and Stanford, it's not comparing apples to apples; it's comparing a gigantic 20 pound variety grab bag of apples to two Red Delicious in your hand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>* post inspired by someone else's work who showed similar numbers last year between GT and other schools. One ACC school had tremendous variety in their majors, something like 13 different ones represented.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steebu, post: 256758, member: 740"] I really dislike this argument. Both Stanford and GT are good schools with high academic reputations. If a guy can get into GT he has the capacity to excel at GT academically. Same goes for Stanford. The APR enforces that academic schools maintain their APR, and as PJ points out, punishes them to a degree. The academic difference between Stanford and GT isn't difficulty of curriculum, it's [B]variety of majors.[/B] Among Stanford's starting 22 there are 9 different majors represented, with the most being ... Undeclared (6). The next highest is 4 each of "Science, Technology and Society", "Management Science and Engineering", and "Communication". Among GT's starting 22 there are 6 different majors represented (including Undeclared, 1), with the most being Management ... with [B]THIRTEEN[/B]. So 27% of Stanford's kids are undeclared, 18% are majoring in STS, 18% in MSE, and 18% in Communication. Meanwhile, 60% of GT's starting 22 is majoring in MGMT. [B]The problem is not difficulty in academics, it's variety of majors. [/B] PJ: "Hey smart 4* kid with the 4.0 GA. Wanna come to GT? We have great academics." 4* Kid: "Awesome! I wanna be on NFL Countdown someday. Do you have a communications major? You're right next to CNN!" PJ: "No, but you can study calculus while you take Management." 4* Kid: "Guess it's off to Stanford for me." I am not suggesting that we "dumb down" the academics for football players. The academics and rigor of GT is what makes GT, well, GT. I sat in my freshman CS orientation and they did the whole, "look to your left, look to your right, those guys will flunk out" bit way back in the day. And guess what? Those guys flunked out (I escaped with two CS degrees ... so I was a glutton for punishment I guess). But my point is that you can add majors without watering down the curriculum to give a bit more variety. We will never have African Studies, Japanese, or Theater Performance Studies like Stanford. But there's no reason why we can't have a Technical Communications major. Well, yes there is, the Board of Regents. When you compare academics at GT and Stanford, it's not comparing apples to apples; it's comparing a gigantic 20 pound variety grab bag of apples to two Red Delicious in your hand. * post inspired by someone else's work who showed similar numbers last year between GT and other schools. One ACC school had tremendous variety in their majors, something like 13 different ones represented. [/QUOTE]
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