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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 877832" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>The "Composite Talent Index" only seems to go back to 2015, not all the way to 2008, but we can pull some numbers from <a href="https://collegefootballdata.com/" target="_blank">https://collegefootballdata.com/</a>. </p><p>A higher Talent Composite Score is better. </p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><strong>Year</strong></td><td><strong>Record</strong></td><td><strong>Coach</strong></td><td><strong>Talent Composite Rank</strong></td><td><strong>Talent Composite Score</strong></td></tr><tr><td>2015</td><td>3-9</td><td>Johnson</td><td>49</td><td>590.34</td></tr><tr><td>2016</td><td>9-4</td><td>Johnson</td><td>50</td><td>582.55</td></tr><tr><td>2017</td><td>5-6</td><td>Johnson</td><td>52</td><td>574.35</td></tr><tr><td>2018</td><td>7-6</td><td>Johnson</td><td>49</td><td>583.49</td></tr><tr><td>2019</td><td>3-9</td><td>Collins</td><td>45</td><td>629.10</td></tr><tr><td>2020</td><td>3-7</td><td>Collins</td><td>30</td><td>684.42</td></tr><tr><td>2021</td><td>3-9</td><td>Collins</td><td>31</td><td>707.35</td></tr></table><p></p><p>If you believe the recruiting sites, Collins has had more talent in his first year than in any one of Johnson's recorded years, including his 2016 Tax Slayer bowl year. </p><p></p><p>I was in section 103 for the Gardner Webb game where we virtually played without a QB (Calvin Booker), and I'm comfortable saying Johnson would have rolled Gardner Webb with our 2019 roster and would have done better with the same players. </p><p></p><p>What you can see is that Collins has upgraded our recruiting rankings since he's been here, and we're on a trajectory for a top 25 talent level (or we were). But we're steady at a bottom-25 defensive performance even though we've moved up to top 30-ish talent. </p><p></p><p>I understand the position that it takes time to build a traditional offensive line. Even so, we should have had good sophomores playing last year. We had an excuse to be an average offense line at worst, and we were well below average. There's no excuse on defense--either the players weren't doing what they're coached to do, or they were coached to do the wrong thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 877832, member: 282"] The "Composite Talent Index" only seems to go back to 2015, not all the way to 2008, but we can pull some numbers from [URL]https://collegefootballdata.com/[/URL]. A higher Talent Composite Score is better. [TABLE] [TR] [TD][B]Year[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Record[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Coach[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Talent Composite Rank[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Talent Composite Score[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2015[/TD] [TD]3-9[/TD] [TD]Johnson[/TD] [TD]49[/TD] [TD]590.34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2016[/TD] [TD]9-4[/TD] [TD]Johnson[/TD] [TD]50[/TD] [TD]582.55[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2017[/TD] [TD]5-6[/TD] [TD]Johnson[/TD] [TD]52[/TD] [TD]574.35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2018[/TD] [TD]7-6[/TD] [TD]Johnson[/TD] [TD]49[/TD] [TD]583.49[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2019[/TD] [TD]3-9[/TD] [TD]Collins[/TD] [TD]45[/TD] [TD]629.10[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2020[/TD] [TD]3-7[/TD] [TD]Collins[/TD] [TD]30[/TD] [TD]684.42[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2021[/TD] [TD]3-9[/TD] [TD]Collins[/TD] [TD]31[/TD] [TD]707.35[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] If you believe the recruiting sites, Collins has had more talent in his first year than in any one of Johnson's recorded years, including his 2016 Tax Slayer bowl year. I was in section 103 for the Gardner Webb game where we virtually played without a QB (Calvin Booker), and I'm comfortable saying Johnson would have rolled Gardner Webb with our 2019 roster and would have done better with the same players. What you can see is that Collins has upgraded our recruiting rankings since he's been here, and we're on a trajectory for a top 25 talent level (or we were). But we're steady at a bottom-25 defensive performance even though we've moved up to top 30-ish talent. I understand the position that it takes time to build a traditional offensive line. Even so, we should have had good sophomores playing last year. We had an excuse to be an average offense line at worst, and we were well below average. There's no excuse on defense--either the players weren't doing what they're coached to do, or they were coached to do the wrong thing. [/QUOTE]
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