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<blockquote data-quote="Jd89" data-source="post: 659697" data-attributes="member: 3669"><p>So I know a ton of folks thinks that CPJ's coaching was unprecedented, but if you look at the stats, it wasn't as great as it seems:</p><p>- His winning record percentage was 0.580 with a bowl record of 0.333, while Chan Gailey (whom he replaced) was 0.579 with a 0.400 bowl record. </p><p>- He is 4th in all time wins at Tech and is also 4th in length of tenure as coach, which makes sense. </p><p>- The 2008 and 2009 season, both of which were great except for the bowls, were mainly composed of Chan players (look at the roster). </p><p>- Assuming mainly his recruits thereafter, his record was 0.543 (credit to CPJ for great years 2014 and 2016, stellar). This record puts him below O'Leary and Chan and on par with...Bobby Ross (who won our last natty and then promptly left) and Bill Fulcher.</p><p></p><p>So the actual stats would indicate that didn't gain all that much from replacing Chan. I was so ready for Chan to leave and I thought CPJ would bring a spark or something fun to the Flats (which he did). At the end of the day, I wanted a better record, which we did get a few years, but overall, CPJ was not all that much better than prior coaches.</p><p></p><p>CPJ did a really good job of taking his scheme and adjusting it to larger players until he switched to his players. However, I don't think it is as easy to transition the other way...the smaller linemen can't provide pass protection like big guys, so we are seeing some of that. When talking about the transition from CPJ to CGC, you first need to look at the offensive line average weight:</p><p></p><p>2018 GT: CPJ's system needs nimble and fast OL, no pass protection needed = 286 lbs. </p><p>2019 Temple OL (I couldn't find the starting lineup for 2018 but 2019 is probably a good reference for our current coaching staff) = 300 lbs </p><p>For teams with QBs that have great stats (although these OLs are destined for diabetes if they are not careful):</p><p>2019 Clemson = 325 lbs</p><p>2019 LSU = 321 lbs</p><p>2019 Oklahoma = 324 lbs</p><p>2019 UGA = 334 lbs</p><p>2019 Alabama = 324 lbs</p><p></p><p>I anticipate that all of the OL folks we are recruiting will averages us up a good bit from 286 lbs.</p><p></p><p>Granted, the team is making terrible mistakes and that lies on the coaches in many respects for not drilling a few of the fundamentals. I just think it is way too early to even call how long he will be here since we truly are at ground zero.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jd89, post: 659697, member: 3669"] So I know a ton of folks thinks that CPJ's coaching was unprecedented, but if you look at the stats, it wasn't as great as it seems: - His winning record percentage was 0.580 with a bowl record of 0.333, while Chan Gailey (whom he replaced) was 0.579 with a 0.400 bowl record. - He is 4th in all time wins at Tech and is also 4th in length of tenure as coach, which makes sense. - The 2008 and 2009 season, both of which were great except for the bowls, were mainly composed of Chan players (look at the roster). - Assuming mainly his recruits thereafter, his record was 0.543 (credit to CPJ for great years 2014 and 2016, stellar). This record puts him below O'Leary and Chan and on par with...Bobby Ross (who won our last natty and then promptly left) and Bill Fulcher. So the actual stats would indicate that didn't gain all that much from replacing Chan. I was so ready for Chan to leave and I thought CPJ would bring a spark or something fun to the Flats (which he did). At the end of the day, I wanted a better record, which we did get a few years, but overall, CPJ was not all that much better than prior coaches. CPJ did a really good job of taking his scheme and adjusting it to larger players until he switched to his players. However, I don't think it is as easy to transition the other way...the smaller linemen can't provide pass protection like big guys, so we are seeing some of that. When talking about the transition from CPJ to CGC, you first need to look at the offensive line average weight: 2018 GT: CPJ's system needs nimble and fast OL, no pass protection needed = 286 lbs. 2019 Temple OL (I couldn't find the starting lineup for 2018 but 2019 is probably a good reference for our current coaching staff) = 300 lbs For teams with QBs that have great stats (although these OLs are destined for diabetes if they are not careful): 2019 Clemson = 325 lbs 2019 LSU = 321 lbs 2019 Oklahoma = 324 lbs 2019 UGA = 334 lbs 2019 Alabama = 324 lbs I anticipate that all of the OL folks we are recruiting will averages us up a good bit from 286 lbs. Granted, the team is making terrible mistakes and that lies on the coaches in many respects for not drilling a few of the fundamentals. I just think it is way too early to even call how long he will be here since we truly are at ground zero. [/QUOTE]
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