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Shanna

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GT had the 2nd highest turnover roster in the ACC, behind Miami. There is no longer development of arms. How many arms are still at GT that committed there out of high school the last 2 years? Of those arms, who has developed/progressed? It's too easy to get experienced arms from the portal and not have to spend time developing them. Nothing will change for that this year either. Evans was a "top arm" and threw less than 1 inning. Same for Musci, McKelvey, and Shouse. I think you will see more in the portal who will (again) be asked to find another school.
 

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GT had the 2nd highest turnover roster in the ACC, behind Miami. There is no longer development of arms. How many arms are still at GT that committed there out of high school the last 2 years? Of those arms, who has developed/progressed? It's too easy to get experienced arms from the portal and not have to spend time developing them. Nothing will change for that this year either. Evans was a "top arm" and threw less than 1 inning. Same for Musci, McKelvey, and Shouse. I think you will see more in the portal who will (again) be asked to find another school.

One reason for the high turnover is last year we had a lot of transfer seniors. The only returning starters were Burress, Kerce and Lackey. We loaded up on Freshman and had the youngest P4 team in the country this year.
 

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One reason for the high turnover is last year we had a lot of transfer seniors. The only returning starters were Burress, Kerce and Lackey. We loaded up on Freshman and had the youngest P4 team in the country this year.
To you or anyone else - were any of the Fr pitchers? Ceteris paribus, what is the outlook of the pitching staff for next year given reasonable or usual amounts of progression from season to season?
 

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To you or anyone else - were any of the Fr pitchers? Ceteris paribus, what is the outlook of the pitching staff for next year given reasonable or usual amounts of progression from season to season?

Cole Royer, Chicoli are the two freshman with the most promise imo. I’m surprised Royer didn’t get more appearances.
 

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Cole Royer, Chicoli are the two freshman with the most promise imo. I’m surprised Royer didn’t get more appearances.
Given these two plus any other returning upperclassmen (assume that they do return) do you jave high expectations for the pitching staff as a whole next year?
 

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Given these two plus any other returning upperclassmen (assume that they do return) do you jave high expectations for the pitching staff as a whole next year?

Will need to replace Paden and Patel but I think Matt Taylor has done an excellent job. No one expected Patel to have the season he had. Last year his ERA was 6.34. Every pitcher on our roster pretty much got better all season up until it mattered most. Stanford even looked to have better control coming back from his injury. I have high expectations for this team next year and if every thing remains status quo I believe we will be preseason top 5.
 

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Given these two plus any other returning upperclassmen (assume that they do return) do you jave high expectations for the pitching staff as a whole next year?
It depends on what happens in the draft to me. We lose Paden, Patel, and Swygert for sure. Jones has a chance to get drafted as does Stanford imo based off of their pure stuff. If one or both of them come back, the staff looks more complete to me. Of course, I am saying this without knowing who transfers out or who transfers in but as of right now, we should have McKee, Spivey, Campbell, Barfield, Ballard, Gaudette, Chicoli, Royer, Hernandez, Buursema, Shouse, Blakeley, and Lankie coming back on the staff. That is a group with very good stuff but only a handful are proven. We are going to need 3-5 of them to step up which I think they are more than capable of doing.
 

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No one is mentioning the pitching coach. Is that someone that is irreplaceable for some reason. I am not that familiar with the staff, but pitching seems to be our problem every year. Is it coaching?
 

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No one is mentioning the pitching coach. Is that someone that is irreplaceable for some reason. I am not that familiar with the staff, but pitching seems to be our problem every year. Is it coaching?
It is only his second year with Tech and we saw a vast improvement this year in pitching. We need to hold onto him for at least another year and see how it goes.
 

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Agreed...pitching was a strength this season until the last 2 games when two guys who had been reliable nearly all season were unable to get out of the 1st inning. I've no idea what caused that implosion (most likely just random timing), but whatever the issue Coach Taylor doesn't get a chance to "fix it". I'm confident he could/would if given the chance.

In 2025 the pitching coach was a strength, not a liability.
 

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It is only his second year with Tech and we saw a vast improvement this year in pitching. We need to hold onto him for at least another year and see how it goes.
Just seems like we had a bunch of high scoring games this year. May have been a lack of starting pitcher depth which put our relievers into the game in the early innings. In AAA ball, once the starter is pulled, it's a new reliever every inning almost 100% of the time.
If Ramsey is named as the HC, will the pitching coach be retained?
 

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When I think back to this postseason later, the thing I will always remember is the unexpected way our 2 starters failed on the weekend. Nobody could have foreseen that. It's not just a matter of "finally getting exposed against good teams." The bullpen did about what you would have expected in those 2 games. And these 2 starters had just been the key reason we won series against Louisville and Duke earlier in the month, 2 teams that have cruised into the Supers already.

The 2 things I wish had been done differently. I really wish he hadn't jumped to Patel so early on Saturday. He wasn't going to go 8.1 innings to finish so you were always going to ride him until he fell off and then pretty much burn him for Sunday. I also wish Chicolli had come in earlier in the regional. I supposed initially he was being held for Sunday or Monday night, but I think he might have been the best option to replace Ballard yesterday.

But it's really hard to be able to have good pitching in these regionals. If you don't believe me, just scroll through the scores of yesterday. Pitching is always at a premium, and if you can have a deep staff, you're probably going to go far (unless you're Vandy this year). Obviously we've been trying for years to find the secret of how to improve it and haven't yet. But there was some progress made this year. It's also really hard to count on true freshmen pitchers as well. Just look at what we did to the Ole Miss starter yesterday. Hopefully some of our young arms will stick around and show some development, but it would be great to be able to get a proven starter in the portal.
 

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I admit I don't follow college baseball very closely. GT is my only interest. But what is so surprising to me is the scoring fest in college ball. Maybe one of you "experts" can explain the difference in scoring compared to the pros. How much is due to the aluminum bats?
Are pitching prospects at the HS level just too raw and undeveloped? Anybody??
 

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Just seems like we had a bunch of high scoring games this year. May have been a lack of starting pitcher depth which put our relievers into the game in the early innings. In AAA ball, once the starter is pulled, it's a new reliever every inning almost 100% of the time.
If Ramsey is named as the HC, will the pitching coach be retained?
Our team ERA was actually 3rd in the ACC this year. We pitched very well but Jones and Paden blew up in the postseason which is something they had not done the whole year. Had they pitched like they were capable of, we'd be in a super regional right now but it is what it is.
 

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I admit I don't follow college baseball very closely. GT is my only interest. But what is so surprising to me is the scoring fest in college ball. Maybe one of you "experts" can explain the difference in scoring compared to the pros. How much is due to the aluminum bats?
Are pitching prospects at the HS level just too raw and undeveloped? Anybody??
i was curious about the same so I have done some digging, This data is from 2002 so it's not fresh but what they did was track the performance of college players in the Cape Cod league (wood bats) vs. their performances in the college season (aluminum). the results are jaw dropping (imo). Over 6 years worth of data show that aluminum bats increase BA by roughly .090 (say from an approximate average of .240 to .330). ERA's decrease by 1.65 runs per game against wood (roughly 2.70 vs 4.35). keep in mind this is measuring the very same players.

Cape Cod data

this does not explain aways diffences of our staff against their peers on other teams. However, it does give insight as to why a 11 - 9 game is not such an anamoly anymore.
 

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My only comment after the sheer disappointment of thius Regional ( I was SO certain that we would beat Murray State on Saturday) is that Brady Jones was (to some degree) the victim of bad luck. MS kep hitting ground balls in the 1st inning, and every single one of them was in a hole. Had even one of them found a glove, we’d have been out of that inning with the lead, more confidence, etc etc.

After that game, I knew what Sunday had in store and simply couldn’t watch or follow the game.

Maybe I’ll get over this feeling by next baseball season, but geez…I sure am sick of this kind of pitching collapse in the Regionals….

'Til next year guys!
 

GTJon

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My only comment after the sheer disappointment of thius Regional ( I was SO certain that we would beat Murray State on Saturday) is that Brady Jones was (to some degree) the victim of bad luck. MS kep hitting ground balls in the 1st inning, and every single one of them was in a hole. Had even one of them found a glove, we’d have been out of that inning with the lead, more confidence, etc etc.

After that game, I knew what Sunday had in store and simply couldn’t watch or follow the game.

Maybe I’ll get over this feeling by next baseball season, but geez…I sure am sick of this kind of pitching collapse in the Regionals….

'Til next year guys!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Paden was getting crushed yesterday, but Jones just kept giving up singles that were finding holes. So frustrating.
 

GT Battle Ax

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Looking back at the first inning, really makes you wonder how much different things go if we were getting those strike calls on the knees that the ump refused to give us. How much does that end up changing pitch selection and location? How many runs end up scoring? How many innings would Paden have gone? I guess you can play the 'what if' game all day, but really does make you think
 

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Looking back at the first inning, really makes you wonder how much different things go if we were getting those strike calls on the knees that the ump refused to give us. How much does that end up changing pitch selection and location? How many runs end up scoring? How many innings would Paden have gone? I guess you can play the 'what if' game all day, but really does make you think
The old axiom was that good pitchers respond to how the ump is calling the game and adjust accordingly. The only problem I see with that now is that, at the college level, there are a lot of good pitchers who don’t have the variety of pitches in their tool bag to be able to successfully shift away from their strengths and get outs.
 
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