Option/Veer Teams in 2016

year_of_the_swarm

year_of_the_swarm

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To put that in perspective... New Mexico threw the ball 179 times all season. Georgia Tech threw 160 passes all season. They are roughly the same, regardless of formation. They run their veer primarily out of the shotgun. New Mexico is more explosive than Georgia Tech, but that probably has to do more with the conference and level of competition than scheme. I would guess anyway.
 
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Interesting article. "Innovative and multiple offense." And yet GT is, thought of by most major media, to be simple and old school. Why the difference in perception? Surely it's not as simple as NM running from the gun and GT from under center?:rolleyes:
 

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Whiskey_Clear said:
Interesting article. "Innovative and multiple offense." And yet GT is, thought of by most major media, to be simple and old school. Why the difference in perception? Surely it's not as simple as NM running from the gun and GT from under center?:rolleyes:
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It's even more simple than that. Just add the word shotgun or pistol and Boom, the media loves you. It's all about padding the PC people... and the SEC.(cue sarcasm):banghead:
 
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As it relates to perception, it's mildly interesting to me that Coach Lamar Owens' twitter bio says "GT Slot Backs Coach/Special Teams Coordinator", rather than A-Backs.

https://twitter.com/owenlamar

I recall the idea of renaming "A" and "B" backs was tossed around here. Wonder how much we're actually trying to re-brand. If we are, seems like we need to do a better job with ESPN/Raycom during their game week prep.
 
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CuseJacket said:
As it relates to perception, it's mildly interesting to me that Coach Lamar Owens' twitter bio says "GT Slot Backs Coach/Special Teams Coordinator", rather than A-Backs.

https://twitter.com/owenlamar

I recall the idea of renaming "A" and "B" backs was tossed around here. Wonder how much we're actually trying to re-brand. If we are, seems like we need to do a better job with ESPN/Raycom during their game week prep.
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We're in year 9 and they're just now starting to understand the difference between an a and a b back.
 

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The real question is, if the TO ,veer,option what ever, is so good, why are only 5 teams that employ the system?
 
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NM's offense last year was more than running the TO from the gun.

"It's a different style of offense," coach Chris Ash said. "It's not Army. It's not Navy. So when you hear option, don't confuse it with that. It's not the same. The sets are different. The plays are different. They have more threats at passing the ball, also. Although there are some similarities ... they're not all the same."

It's a weak article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nj.c...ple-option_comparing_new_mexico_army_navy.amp


Another article:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbna...ico-bowl-lobos-bob-davie-triple-option-pistol
 

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year_of_the_swarm said:
The major option teams in the country, which are Georgia Tech, Navy, Air Force, Army, and New Mexico went a combined 45-21 this year. They also went 4-1 in bowl games, with only Navy losing their bowl by 3 points. Navy lost Will Worth and wasn't the same team, but they were probably the best option team in the country with him.

When will the rest of the country wake up? Look at the accomplishments at Georgia Tech, then you take another non-military school like New Mexico and look at what they accomplished. They basically had a dead program. They hire Bob Davie, put in the option (which was modeled after Nebraska's option attack around the year 2000), and look at them.

New Mexico:
  • #1 in Mountain West in scoring offense
  • #1 in Mountain West in rushing offense
  • #3 in Mountain West in total offense
  • #2 in Mountain West in time of possession
  • Highest yardage total in a single game
  • Highest yards per play in a single game
  • Highest rushing yards in a single game
The rest of the country needs to wake up... This system works, period. It's explosive, its hard to stop, its easier to recruit, etc.

Nebraska was still doing very well with it when they ditched it around 2002 and they've basically been nothing without it. Lots of examples out there.
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Davie apparently coaches the option better than he explained it on TV.
 

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Skeptic said:
Davie apparently coaches the option better than he explained it on TV.
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He doesn't. He got the guy that was oc at Sam Huston state a few years ago and to year of the swarm 2000 Nebraska offense was a lot under center. It might look like Solich's offense at Ohio after Nebraska got rid of him but not really Nebraska 2000.
 

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zhavenor said:
He doesn't. He got the guy that was oc at Sam Huston state a few years ago and to year of the swarm 2000 Nebraska offense was a lot under center. It might look like Solich's offense at Ohio after Nebraska got rid of him but not really Nebraska 2000.
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Well, okay. But surely by now he knows the difference in chop and cut blocking?
 
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