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<blockquote data-quote="vamosjackets" data-source="post: 292992" data-attributes="member: 216"><p>I think we're confusing our terms here. In my lift terms, what you're describing is a "clean and squat" or "clean and front squat". For me, a clean is just getting it up from the floor to your chest in the stand up position. That may involve more or less of a squat depending on your technique and how much need you have to drop your level based on the weight. If you're cleaning light weight, you don't have to change your level as much because you can snatch it up from the floor high enough without even having to drop your level to "go down and get it". Camp's rep would definitely count in a "Clean" competition. If the workout involved doing "clean and squat", then the rep wouldn't count because you have to clean AND squat. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying your lift terms are wrong, just that that's why we're having trouble getting on the same page. We're using the same term but we're talking about two different things.</p><p></p><p>So, my "clean and squat" = your "clean". And, I'm not sure you have a word for what I would just call a "clean". </p><p></p><p>It appears to me from the video, that this is not a "clean and squat" max lift, but rather just a max out on "clean".</p><p></p><p>You could argue that part of Camp's lift is more impressive because he was able to snatch it high enough on the initial movement to not have the need to drop his level as much or "go down and get it" to finish with the stand. In another sense Quaide's is more impressive because he snatched it from the floor, dropped his level quickly, and squatted it. Camp was more explosive on the snatch. Quaide was more explosive on the change in level. Both are strong as ______.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vamosjackets, post: 292992, member: 216"] I think we're confusing our terms here. In my lift terms, what you're describing is a "clean and squat" or "clean and front squat". For me, a clean is just getting it up from the floor to your chest in the stand up position. That may involve more or less of a squat depending on your technique and how much need you have to drop your level based on the weight. If you're cleaning light weight, you don't have to change your level as much because you can snatch it up from the floor high enough without even having to drop your level to "go down and get it". Camp's rep would definitely count in a "Clean" competition. If the workout involved doing "clean and squat", then the rep wouldn't count because you have to clean AND squat. I'm not saying your lift terms are wrong, just that that's why we're having trouble getting on the same page. We're using the same term but we're talking about two different things. So, my "clean and squat" = your "clean". And, I'm not sure you have a word for what I would just call a "clean". It appears to me from the video, that this is not a "clean and squat" max lift, but rather just a max out on "clean". You could argue that part of Camp's lift is more impressive because he was able to snatch it high enough on the initial movement to not have the need to drop his level as much or "go down and get it" to finish with the stand. In another sense Quaide's is more impressive because he snatched it from the floor, dropped his level quickly, and squatted it. Camp was more explosive on the snatch. Quaide was more explosive on the change in level. Both are strong as ______. [/QUOTE]
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