There is no rational argument as to why players shouldn't be paid. That some would abuse the process is not a rational argument. That is already happening.
Title 9 is why. You cannot say we are going to pay the Football players 100k a year or something (100k X 105 because scholarship or not they are doing the same job thus are employees and fall into equal pay laws) the Basketball players something else, then turn around and say Softball womens basketball baseball and every other sport makes no money so no pay for the athletes. And if you use your two revenue earning sports to pay every athlete... they won't make enough.
The likeness clause that just passed in cali is how this gets solved, not the schools paying them more than a scholarship.
I’m pretty sure this has been proven not true
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/14/5613112/ncaa-title-9-ed-obannon
Ok in 2018 we made over $2M. Well in 2019, the last year reported we lost $9.6M and we’re supposed to run a deficit of $1.7M this year.
https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/...eased-revenues-future/9U39mJ6svTyiFt1FCVzryL/
Many schools couldn't afford to pay athletes in every sport, it just wouldn't be possible. Only the richest could succeed in this system I think. ur athletic department is not exactly flush with money right now iirc.
And how would you pay the players? Take our FB team as an example. Would Juanyeh and Liam Byrne(walk on QB) be paid the same? If you pay one guy on the team, you have to pay all of them. So would you pay every member of every team that we have at GT the same set salary? If you pay FB more than Softball or Girls Basketball, isn't that some sort of violation? What if another school offers more money than GT does? Wouldn't recruiting just become a bidding war, almost like free agency in pro sports leagues? How would G5 schools with average to below average money be able to survive?
Correct so how do we expect to pay players if we are barely above water. Now look at the school endowment. It is not losing money but we aren't standing up for the thousands of other kids
The reality is that the best solution is through the free market. And if the free market is in play then one must be prepared to likely see the current status quo and institutions either change significantly or fail.
The situation is rigged by colleges essentially today no differently than taxi medallions are rigged in NY. Large bureaucratic boondoggles are put in place all with the supposed best intentions in mind(safety, children, compassion, amateurism, yada yada) that always lead to unintended consequences. Their only defense against innovation like Uber/Lyft is through further legislation that protects them.
Get the rules out of the way and let the chips fall where they may. It likely means an end to college football as we know it but so be it. I bet there will still be forms of entertainment and a way for people to have a good time and those that provide the entertainment will be paid the value of the entertainment they provide. With the dollars they earn they will have the freedom to spend them as they see fit, such as on their family or education or whatever, just like the rest of us.
No this won't eliminate poverty or mental illness but nothing will. The end result though will be a more just and net beneficial impact on society than any further contrived rule will deliver.
Nobody seems to have answers to these questions. Most just want to jump and down say something needs to change.
I don't see anyway you can do it and maintain any form of the current structure. And maybe that's what some want is a complete overthrow of the NCAA.
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Ah. The European solution.The reality is that the best solution is through the free market. And if the free market is in play then one must be prepared to likely see the current status quo and institutions either change significantly or fail.
The situation is rigged by colleges essentially today no differently than taxi medallions are rigged in NY. Large bureaucratic boondoggles are put in place all with the supposed best intentions in mind(safety, children, compassion, amateurism, yada yada) that always lead to unintended consequences. Their only defense against innovation like Uber/Lyft is through further legislation that protects them.
Get the rules out of the way and let the chips fall where they may. It likely means an end to college football as we know it but so be it. I bet there will still be forms of entertainment and a way for people to have a good time and those that provide the entertainment will be paid the value of the entertainment they provide. With the dollars they earn they will have the freedom to spend them as they see fit, such as on their family or education or whatever, just like the rest of us.
No this won't eliminate poverty or mental illness but nothing will. The end result though will be a more just and net beneficial impact on society than any further contrived rule will deliver.
According to research in 2017 the average cost of tuition for four years in college in the US is $35K. Tim Tebow, Herschel Walker, Calvin Johnson etc definitely earned their respected schools more than $35K. However, does the average student athlete earn their respected schools more than $35K? Absolutely not. I frequent this board quite a lot and went to 5 games and I can probably name 10-15 players on this team. The truth is, we’re spending money on Tech tickets whether it’s Thomas wearing #1 or Reggie Ball.
I believe players should be allowed to profit from their likeness. The Tim Tebows, Herschel Walkers and Calvin Johnsons have every right to make money on jersey sales or represent some local tire store while they are still in college.
However, the school shouldn’t directly pay any athlete. To dismiss a $35K scholarship(depending on what you do with it, it’s worth way more) as non-payment is ABSOLUTELY coming from a place of privilege. What about the kids that come from poverty that don’t play sports that have better grades than a lot of these athletes, but not good enough grades for an academic scholarship? You gonna tell those kids that that scholarship doesn’t mean anything? These players are privileged and they don’t live in the real world.
I don't believe free markets created bad people, they have always existed and always will. Besides health insurance in particular is not a free market.free market? how are those health insurance and drug scams working for us. thats part of the reason why we have this thread to begin with. a family with mental health issues slipped under that wonderful catch all free market many of you speak of.