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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 523578" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Yes the "they are still football players" really handles the problem of guys spending years and years being taught for a completely different system. But because they are football players our WRs will suddenly be able to get separation and have chemistry with our new QB who will have very little, if any, experience at the college level and none in the current offense, all behind an OL who was terrible in pass protection, but we all know that just switching to a two point stance will cure that ail (I can't believe Johnson never thought of that...) . </p><p></p><p>The fact is that some players will thrive. Some will utterly fail. And many will be somewhere inbetween. But outside of RB we have a ? at literally every position on offense and the odds simply aren't in our favor in that situation. It isn't a huge deal if a WR and slot turn out great if our OL can't block worth a damn or we don't have a QB that can go through progressions or make the throws. In 2008 we had Dwyer, Thomas, and Nesbitt and even then we didn't really put it together until the 11th game of the year. Some players will thrive, but that doesn't mean there won't be huge holes in the offense that significantly hurt next year regardless. </p><p></p><p>As far as the question to the 6-8 wins thing, I thought the answer obvious. Yes, if we manage to win the same amount of games while completely overhauling both sides of the ball then it is a huge success by Collins the same way Pastner going to the NIT in year 1 was a huge success for him. Now let me guess, "something something something accepting mediocrity while ignoring that winning 7 in year one under a transition is very different than in year 11 something something something".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 523578, member: 2299"] Yes the "they are still football players" really handles the problem of guys spending years and years being taught for a completely different system. But because they are football players our WRs will suddenly be able to get separation and have chemistry with our new QB who will have very little, if any, experience at the college level and none in the current offense, all behind an OL who was terrible in pass protection, but we all know that just switching to a two point stance will cure that ail (I can't believe Johnson never thought of that...) . The fact is that some players will thrive. Some will utterly fail. And many will be somewhere inbetween. But outside of RB we have a ? at literally every position on offense and the odds simply aren't in our favor in that situation. It isn't a huge deal if a WR and slot turn out great if our OL can't block worth a damn or we don't have a QB that can go through progressions or make the throws. In 2008 we had Dwyer, Thomas, and Nesbitt and even then we didn't really put it together until the 11th game of the year. Some players will thrive, but that doesn't mean there won't be huge holes in the offense that significantly hurt next year regardless. As far as the question to the 6-8 wins thing, I thought the answer obvious. Yes, if we manage to win the same amount of games while completely overhauling both sides of the ball then it is a huge success by Collins the same way Pastner going to the NIT in year 1 was a huge success for him. Now let me guess, "something something something accepting mediocrity while ignoring that winning 7 in year one under a transition is very different than in year 11 something something something". [/QUOTE]
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