NCAA releases statement eliminating the need for the Transfer Portal

[Tommy_Taylor_1972]

Funny how certain cycles in sports almost seem to repeat. When college football was in its infancy the practice of schools bringing in “ringers” to beef up the squad was a frequent criticism by those wanting football to become a legitimate sport. The evolution of NCAA rules occurred because of this, as well as dangerous and even deadly game tactics. I have no clue where any of this will end up.

It could end up like women's college basketball was before the NCAA took them over in 1982. The Association for Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (AIAW) was formed in 1971 for college women's basketball teams to compete among each other. At that time the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) had no interest in women's athletics, and administrators of the AIAW had no interest in the NCAA either. The NCAA was seen as being commercially driven and neglecting the meaning of the student-athlete. There were distinct differences between the two associations in the AIAW's early years. For example, student-athletes playing in AIAW programs were allowed to transfer freely between schools and to prevent unfair advantages, programs were initially forbidden to offer scholarships and recruit off-campus. Via a lawsuit, scholarships and off campus recruiting were allowed in 1973.

Georgia Tech's first women's basketball team was formed in 1974, coached by assistant track coach Jim Culpepper, an advocate of women in sports. The fact that Tech women received athletic letters in 1974 led to the renaming of the 40 year old all-male T Club to the Letterwinners Club. The team played in the Georgia Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (GAIAW), which included all 4-year colleges in Georgia competing against each other for the state championship and on to the regional and national championships. After my first two years of men's college coaching at Georgia Southern, I went to Augusta College as men's assistant coach in 1980. The women's coach married and moved the summer I arrived, and the AD asked if I would coach the women's team until they hired a new coach. I agreed and enjoyed coaching the women greatly for two years. They were great students, very coach-able, and loved the game. We even had a 30-second clock before the men did. I never had a player transfer nor had a transfer in, even though they could have done that by AIAW rules.

The NCAA, mainly through Title IX laws, invited college teams to join the NCAA in the early 1980's and leave the AIAW. Georgia Tech AD Homer Rice hired the first female women's basketball coach in 1981, Bernadette McGlade, who took over from former Dwane Morrison men's assistant Benny Dees, who coached for one year in the transition from AIAW to NCAA and into the ACC. When Bernadete was hired, Benny married West Georgia women's coach Nancy Carter and they moved to Alabama as assistant coach to Wimp Sanderson. After NBC cancelled their AIAW TV championship contract in 1982, the AIAW was made extinct by schools joining the NCAA, mainly because of revenue to be earned by television rights.

So the college sports landscape is reverting back to the history of the women's AIAW league, with freedom of transfer and doing what is best for TV contracts and revenue. Letters of Intent last year were eliminated and player contracts instituted to retain a player. And lawsuits ensued. We are in the wild wild west where the women's sports were in their infancy in the 1970's, as well as players team-hopping at will like they did before the NCAA was formed when teams brought in ringers who may not have even beein in shcool.

 

[GTHomer]

It could end up like women's college basketball was before the NCAA took them over in 1982. The Association for Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (AIAW) was formed in 1971 for college women's basketball teams to compete among each other. At that time the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) had no interest in women's athletics, and administrators of the AIAW had no interest in the NCAA either. The NCAA was seen as being commercially driven and neglecting the meaning of the student-athlete. There were distinct differences between the two associations in the AIAW's early years. For example, student-athletes playing in AIAW programs were allowed to transfer freely between schools and to prevent unfair advantages, programs were initially forbidden to offer scholarships and recruit off-campus. Via a lawsuit, scholarships and off campus recruiting were allowed in 1973.

Georgia Tech's first women's basketball team was formed in 1974, coached by assistant track coach Jim Culpepper, an advocate of women in sports. The fact that Tech women received athletic letters in 1974 led to the renaming of the 40 year old all-male T Club to the Letterwinners Club. The team played in the Georgia Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (GAIAW), which included all 4-year colleges in Georgia competing against each other for the state championship and on to the regional and national championships. After my first two years of men's college coaching at Georgia Southern, I went to Augusta College as men's assistant coach in 1980. The women's coach married and moved the summer I arrived, and the AD asked if I would coach the women's team until they hired a new coach. I agreed and enjoyed coaching the women greatly for two years. They were great students, very coach-able, and loved the game. We even had a 30-second clock before the men did. I never had a player transfer nor had a transfer in, even though they could have done that by AIAW rules.

The NCAA, mainly through Title IX laws, invited college teams to join the NCAA in the early 1980's and leave the AIAW. Georgia Tech AD Homer Rice hired the first female women's basketball coach in 1981, Bernadette McGlade, who took over from former Dwane Morrison men's assistant Benny Dees, who coached for one year in the transition from AIAW to NCAA and into the ACC. When Bernadete was hired, Benny married West Georgia women's coach Nancy Carter and they moved to Alabama as assistant coach to Wimp Sanderson. After NBC cancelled their AIAW TV championship contract in 1982, the AIAW was made extinct by schools joining the NCAA, mainly because of revenue to be earned by television rights.

So the college sports landscape is reverting back to the history of the women's AIAW league, with freedom of transfer and doing what is best for TV contracts and revenue. Letters of Intent last year were eliminated and player contracts instituted to retain a player. And lawsuits ensued. We are in the wild wild west where the women's sports were in their infancy in the 1970's, as well as players team-hopping at will like they did before the NCAA was formed when teams brought in ringers who may not have even beein in shcool.

Another great history lesson from Tommy! Thanks again....

 

[GT33]

Both cases you sight for MLB and NFL require actions by the teams (schools). MLB has to be either a trade or player is released and NFL as you said gets waived. This is entirely different since the school has no say in the movement and it is completely the desire of the player to move to another school.

Good points. Wonder how things like Non-competes I signed. After all, we should be able to ban players from going certain places if they tie the know with us. Need some lawyers on here to start a food fight.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

It could end up like women's college basketball was before the NCAA took them over in 1982. The Association for Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (AIAW) was formed in 1971 for college women's basketball teams to compete among each other. At that time the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) had no interest in women's athletics, and administrators of the AIAW had no interest in the NCAA either. The NCAA was seen as being commercially driven and neglecting the meaning of the student-athlete. There were distinct differences between the two associations in the AIAW's early years. For example, student-athletes playing in AIAW programs were allowed to transfer freely between schools and to prevent unfair advantages, programs were initially forbidden to offer scholarships and recruit off-campus. Via a lawsuit, scholarships and off campus recruiting were allowed in 1973.

Georgia Tech's first women's basketball team was formed in 1974, coached by assistant track coach Jim Culpepper, an advocate of women in sports. The fact that Tech women received athletic letters in 1974 led to the renaming of the 40 year old all-male T Club to the Letterwinners Club. The team played in the Georgia Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (GAIAW), which included all 4-year colleges in Georgia competing against each other for the state championship and on to the regional and national championships. After my first two years of men's college coaching at Georgia Southern, I went to Augusta College as men's assistant coach in 1980. The women's coach married and moved the summer I arrived, and the AD asked if I would coach the women's team until they hired a new coach. I agreed and enjoyed coaching the women greatly for two years. They were great students, very coach-able, and loved the game. We even had a 30-second clock before the men did. I never had a player transfer nor had a transfer in, even though they could have done that by AIAW rules.

The NCAA, mainly through Title IX laws, invited college teams to join the NCAA in the early 1980's and leave the AIAW. Georgia Tech AD Homer Rice hired the first female women's basketball coach in 1981, Bernadette McGlade, who took over from former Dwane Morrison men's assistant Benny Dees, who coached for one year in the transition from AIAW to NCAA and into the ACC. When Bernadete was hired, Benny married West Georgia women's coach Nancy Carter and they moved to Alabama as assistant coach to Wimp Sanderson. After NBC cancelled their AIAW TV championship contract in 1982, the AIAW was made extinct by schools joining the NCAA, mainly because of revenue to be earned by television rights.

So the college sports landscape is reverting back to the history of the women's AIAW league, with freedom of transfer and doing what is best for TV contracts and revenue. Letters of Intent last year were eliminated and player contracts instituted to retain a player. And lawsuits ensued. We are in the wild wild west where the women's sports were in their infancy in the 1970's, as well as players team-hopping at will like they did before the NCAA was formed when teams brought in ringers who may not have even beein in shcool.

Two names I had totally forgotten about, Benny Dees and Wimp Sanderson!

Thanks again for the history lesson.

I have a vague memory of Augusta College being a tough team for NAIA schools to go up against but that might have been a different decade.

Thanks again!

 

[stinger 1957]

Looks to me like there are no rules any more, at least we're getting there pretty quick if not already there.
Guessing there will not be any (rules) until CFB ends up wherever it is headed, probably one (possibly two) master league of 50+/- schools (total), then rules will be made by the big boys for themselves. The rest make their rules. How long does that take? How long does it take the ACC to destroy itself just sitting there might give some insight to the other question. I'm guessing only a few years the way things are going in CFB for the ACC. How many games did we win against other leagues this past season?

 

[yeti92]

How many games did we win against other leagues this past season?

In regular season play, we were 3-2 against the Big 12, 3-2 against the Big 10, 1-0 against the Pac 12. Only the SEC had a winning record against us during the regular season, going 8-3.

 

[Oldgoldandwhite]

It could end up like women's college basketball was before the NCAA took them over in 1982. The Association for Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (AIAW) was formed in 1971 for college women's basketball teams to compete among each other. At that time the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) had no interest in women's athletics, and administrators of the AIAW had no interest in the NCAA either. The NCAA was seen as being commercially driven and neglecting the meaning of the student-athlete. There were distinct differences between the two associations in the AIAW's early years. For example, student-athletes playing in AIAW programs were allowed to transfer freely between schools and to prevent unfair advantages, programs were initially forbidden to offer scholarships and recruit off-campus. Via a lawsuit, scholarships and off campus recruiting were allowed in 1973.

Georgia Tech's first women's basketball team was formed in 1974, coached by assistant track coach Jim Culpepper, an advocate of women in sports. The fact that Tech women received athletic letters in 1974 led to the renaming of the 40 year old all-male T Club to the Letterwinners Club. The team played in the Georgia Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (GAIAW), which included all 4-year colleges in Georgia competing against each other for the state championship and on to the regional and national championships. After my first two years of men's college coaching at Georgia Southern, I went to Augusta College as men's assistant coach in 1980. The women's coach married and moved the summer I arrived, and the AD asked if I would coach the women's team until they hired a new coach. I agreed and enjoyed coaching the women greatly for two years. They were great students, very coach-able, and loved the game. We even had a 30-second clock before the men did. I never had a player transfer nor had a transfer in, even though they could have done that by AIAW rules.

The NCAA, mainly through Title IX laws, invited college teams to join the NCAA in the early 1980's and leave the AIAW. Georgia Tech AD Homer Rice hired the first female women's basketball coach in 1981, Bernadette McGlade, who took over from former Dwane Morrison men's assistant Benny Dees, who coached for one year in the transition from AIAW to NCAA and into the ACC. When Bernadete was hired, Benny married West Georgia women's coach Nancy Carter and they moved to Alabama as assistant coach to Wimp Sanderson. After NBC cancelled their AIAW TV championship contract in 1982, the AIAW was made extinct by schools joining the NCAA, mainly because of revenue to be earned by television rights.

So the college sports landscape is reverting back to the history of the women's AIAW league, with freedom of transfer and doing what is best for TV contracts and revenue. Letters of Intent last year were eliminated and player contracts instituted to retain a player. And lawsuits ensued. We are in the wild wild west where the women's sports were in their infancy in the 1970's, as well as players team-hopping at will like they did before the NCAA was formed when teams brought in ringers who may not have even beein in shcool.

Knew Jim Culpepper and Benny Dees. Jim married my best friends sister.

 

[stinger78]

In regular season play, we were 3-2 against the Big 12, 3-2 against the Big 10, 1-0 against the Pac 12. Only the SEC had a winning record against us during the regular season, going 8-3.

Does that 8-3 include the “win” by ugag over GT?

 

[Tommy_Taylor_1972]

Two names I had totally forgotten about, Benny Dees and Wimp Sanderson!

Thanks again for the history lesson.

I have a vague memory of Augusta College being a tough team for NAIA schools to go up against but that might have been a different decade.

Thanks again!

You are likely remembering their high level of play in the early 1970's when they had a 25 year old from the Army Chip Johnson and Augusta's Barry Timmerman who transferred from Auburn to Augusta College. They averaged 86 points a game and averaged beating their opponents by 15, going to the NAIA nationals in Kansas City for several years.

 

[yeti92]

Does that 8-3 include the “win” by ugag over GT?

Yes

 

[cpf2001]

At this point, I have to believe that the NCAA and powers-that-be are just purposefully trying to break things as badly as they can to force Congress to act.

This is my current theory.

They don’t want to take the currently legal route with a players union and CBA that pro leagues use even without special legislative antitrust exemptions (only MLB has a super-exhaustive one). Maybe they’re scared of fans leaving if they fully get rid of the tattered fig leaf of amateurism.

So they play incompetent to hope the feds will bail them out and let them set rules without having to negotiate with players.

 

[GTHomer]

You are likely remembering their high level of play in the early 1970's when they had a 25 year old from the Army Chip Johnson and Augusta's Barry Timmerman who transferred from Auburn to Augusta College. They averaged 86 points a game and averaged beating their opponents by 15, going to the NAIA nationals in Kansas City for several years.

Was that when Augusta played in the old South Atlantic Conference (SAC)? I remember that conference of Georgia colleges including Armstrong, Columbus, Southern Poly and West Georgia among others back in the 70's.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

You are likely remembering their high level of play in the early 1970's when they had a 25 year old from the Army Chip Johnson and Augusta's Barry Timmerman who transferred from Auburn to Augusta College. They averaged 86 points a game and averaged beating their opponents by 15, going to the NAIA nationals in Kansas City for several years.

Yes!

 

[GoldZ]

Also, the DOE announced that Title IX applies to direct pay contracts under the House Settlement. So, schools are rolling back paying players and going back to 'independent' NIL collectives. (The new administration could change this.)

At this point, I have to believe that the NCAA and powers-that-be are just purposefully trying to break things as badly as they can to force Congress to act. This pretty much pre-emptively destroys any potential improvements from the House-settlement. Schools can pay players, but the contracts are meaningless and there are zero limitations on transfers except schools can't 'directly' communicate with players. But a coach can tell a player's parent, HS coach, agent(?): 'Hey, if Jimmy were to transfer and enroll here, he'd have a roster spot and he'd be worth $XYZ NIL.'

Which, I'm pretty confident the NCAA is going to drop the communication limits as soon as anyone challenges them. Your employer can't prohibit you from talking to other potential employers (except to fire you.) And they certainly can't collude with other companies to not hire each other's employees.

Without an anti-trust exemption for NCAA members (or hopefully a different governing body exempt from Title IX for revenue sports.). We're a couple decisions away from literal mid-season 1 week transfers.

Sad, but true, but MOSTLY truly sad.

 

[GoldZ]

Yes

Then, it's invalid. Much more so than their quibbles about servicemen in the 40s.

 

[Techwood Relict]

I have June 13th 2025 in the pool. What date you want? Only $1,000 per date.

This is a fixed bet. It's been this way at uga since before Herschel.....

 

[RonJohn]

 

[GTNavyNuke]

What is next? In-game transfers? How long until school enrollment is no longer even a requirement to play?

Can an "academic only student" be enrolled in two schools at once? If so, why can't a "student athlete" compete for two schools teams? "Student athletes" and "academic students" should be treated the same.

Only conflict would be when both teams play each other. Kind of like couldn't take two tests at two schools at the same time.

Why confuse money and entertainment with loyalty to an organization?

 

[stinger78]

Can an "academic only student" be enrolled in two schools at once? If so, why can't a "student athlete" compete for two schools teams? "Student athletes" and "academic students" should be treated the same.

Only conflict would be when both teams play each other. Kind of like couldn't take two tests at two schools at the same time.

Why confuse money and entertainment with loyalty to an organization?

Ha! CFB is finally entering the Twilight Zone of reality. All the better, as it will force needed structure upon it.

 

[roadkill]

The title of this thread is misleading. The transfer portal is still alive and well, and serves to facilitate the process of allowing players to move between schools. Folks are taking a contract dispute between a school and an athlete and making it an issue with the portal in general. The portal is only tangentially involved because Wisconsin didn’t allow it to be used.

Although House isn’t final yet, it has shown that it isn’t illegal for a school to contract with and pay players directly. In fact, it never was illegal – it was only against NCAA rules which do not have the force of law.

The challenge for the NCAA going forward is that by its very nature, it's an organization where schools collectively agree (collude) to make rules for athletes. As has been shown repeatedly in recent years, any rule which attempts to restrict or control revenue opportunities for S-As is likely to be found illegal.

Legal NCAA rules: How you play the game.

Illegal: How much money you can make playing the game.

I wonder if the next NCAA rule tested in court is going to be eligibility. This is a gray area to me – could an S-A claim that NCAA "student in good standing" requirements prevent them from making bank? What about the 4-year rule/redshirt rules?