NCAA releases statement eliminating the need for the Transfer Portal

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Way to go, Wisconsin. Good luck finding a judge or jury who won’t side with a kid wanting to leave Wisconsin for his home in South Florida in January. Pretty sure greater than 95% of people would make that move in a heartbeat.
 

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That statement sure reads to me as saying teams in the playoffs can pickup transfers and start using them during the playoffs. I'd imagine the use case would be fairly limited since whoever you pick up will have very limited time to learn a playbook, but certain positions could probably still see the field if you brought in a player who was significantly more talented than what you've got, even if just for specific plays.
 
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gtchem05 said:
Way to go, Wisconsin. Good luck finding a judge or jury who won’t side with a kid wanting to leave Wisconsin for his home in South Florida in January. Pretty sure greater than 95% of people would make that move in a heartbeat.
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I am not a lawyer and know very little about contract law. IMO, sounds like the NCAA believes they hold little or no legal standing to control player movement (the end of the transfer portal). The player signed a two year revenue-sharing contract with Wisconsin. If Wisconsin sues the player for breach of contract, a judge has to decide if the contract is legally binding.
 

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What is next? In-game transfers? How long until school enrollment is no longer even a requirement to play?
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I think MLB had a couple cases where someone switched unis in the middle of a DH.

In NFL, you get waived, next week you’re playing for someone else.

Us old timers are trying to hold onto the good old days when skool meant something. I’ll go to my grave hating those disgusting nutlicking bastards up the road, but nobody’s offering me $1M to put on a jailbird suit for 3 months and break bread with those Neanderthals. It would make getting to retirement a whole lot faster and I’m sure a healthy amount of mouthwash would make that bad taste go away.
 
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Funny how certain cycles in sports almost seem to repeat. When college football was in its infancy the practice of schools bringing in “ringers” to beef up the squad was a frequent criticism by those wanting football to become a legitimate sport. The evolution of NCAA rules occurred because of this, as well as dangerous and even deadly game tactics. I have no clue where any of this will end up.
 
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iopjacket said:
I am not a lawyer and know very little about contract law. IMO, sounds like the NCAA believes they hold little or no legal standing to control player movement (the end of the transfer portal). The player signed a two year revenue-sharing contract with Wisconsin. If Wisconsin sues the player for breach of contract, a judge has to decide if the contract is legally binding.
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Also, good luck recruiting anybody to play for you after you’re the first team to sue a player.
 
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The article isn't very specific. It appears to me that the NCAA is just staying out of it. The article says that the player signed a two year agreement to play at Wisconsin. Contracts aren't allowed to create slaves nor indentured servants. A contract can't keep someone from moving to a new job, nor a new school. However, to my non-legally-trained mind, it seems like this would be an easy breach of contract lawsuit for Wisconsing to file and to win. At this point, it wouldn't be a school holding NCAA rules over a kid that could be considered monopolistic, it is a mutually agreed to contract that was broken by the kid. If they can prove that Miami reached out to him before he broke the contract, they might could sue Miami for tortious interference.

I think it will be interesting if Wisconsin tries to sue him. If they do not, then their revenue sharing agreements will be one-sided. Once again, not trained legally, but it seems to me that if they do not go after this guy, they will be subject to a selective prosecution defense if they go after someone else in the future. Also, it will be interesting to see what they claim if they do file suit. Are they going to seek damages, or are they going to try to get an injunction against Miami using the NIL of this player since those were "sold" to Wisconsin?
 

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Northeast Stinger said:
Funny how certain cycles in sports almost seem to repeat. When college football was in its infancy the practice of schools bringing in “ringers” to beef up the squad was a frequent criticism by those wanting football to become a legitimate sport. The evolution of NCAA rules occurred because of this, as well as dangerous and even deadly game tactics. I have no clue where any of this will end up.
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One could argue the entire team is nothing but ringers now.
 

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This is totally on Wisconsin. They refused to enter a player's name into the Transfer Portal which is an NCAA requirement to do so within 48 hours of the player submitting his name to the school compliance office. There aren't many rules regarding players that the NCAA has good standing on but this is one they actually do.

The contracts signed are based on an NCAA agreement to have schools pay players directly that has not been settled through the legal system yet, in other words it is not valid at this point. Wisconsin will lose if they try and take legal action. They will also lose any hope to be a major player in NIL going forward. The rest of the B1G will kill them recruiting kids who are offered by both schools.

Just wow how stupid are the administrators running college sports at both the NCAA and some colleges.

We may not like where college sports have gone regarding money and players, but good lord this was stupid by Wisconsin.
 
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Also, the DOE announced that Title IX applies to direct pay contracts under the House Settlement. So, schools are rolling back paying players and going back to 'independent' NIL collectives. (The new administration could change this.)

At this point, I have to believe that the NCAA and powers-that-be are just purposefully trying to break things as badly as they can to force Congress to act. This pretty much pre-emptively destroys any potential improvements from the House-settlement. Schools can pay players, but the contracts are meaningless and there are zero limitations on transfers except schools can't 'directly' communicate with players. But a coach can tell a player's parent, HS coach, agent(?): 'Hey, if Jimmy were to transfer and enroll here, he'd have a roster spot and he'd be worth $XYZ NIL.'

Which, I'm pretty confident the NCAA is going to drop the communication limits as soon as anyone challenges them. Your employer can't prohibit you from talking to other potential employers (except to fire you.) And they certainly can't collude with other companies to not hire each other's employees.

Without an anti-trust exemption for NCAA members (or hopefully a different governing body exempt from Title IX for revenue sports.). We're a couple decisions away from literal mid-season 1 week transfers.
 

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GT33 said:
I think MLB had a couple cases where someone switched unis in the middle of a DH.

In NFL, you get waived, next week you’re playing for someone else.

Us old timers are trying to hold onto the good old days when skool meant something. I’ll go to my grave hating those disgusting nutlicking bastards up the road, but nobody’s offering me $1M to put on a jailbird suit for 3 months and break bread with those Neanderthals. It would make getting to retirement a whole lot faster and I’m sure a healthy amount of mouthwash would make that bad taste go away.
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Both cases you sight for MLB and NFL require actions by the teams (schools). MLB has to be either a trade or player is released and NFL as you said gets waived. This is entirely different since the school has no say in the movement and it is completely the desire of the player to move to another school. As someone else stated, this does leave the very real possibility that a player could be mid-season on a losing team and then go sell his wares to a team trying to make the playoffs. The only thing I think that could slow this down is all schools not allowing a player to be enrolled in school no later than a week after a semester starts. If schools would not allow a player to play unless they are enrolled, maybe it slows it down. I think at some point Presidents of Schools have to at least think about a minor degree of integrity. To me if there are no guardrails, we need to break players completely from school and create the equivalent of a G-League for the NFL. What is preventing that is the NFL gets all of this for free today and the greed of schools.
 
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