Name and Likeness Law Signed by Kemp

[SteamWhistle]

First, yes people bought #21 jerseys (probably all Tech fans). These are people who would have bought some other number if not #21. No, I don't think Calvin had much effect on the number of fans in the stands. Yes, these kids will get paid because they always have. This just makes it easier to cheat, and they will cheat.

Second, if you truly believe what you're writing, you're naive.

Third, there's nothing wrong with your opinion (that 30 years won't fix).

You will just have to sit back and watch. When these guys start getting paid you will realize they are worth more then a free scholarship.

 

[85Escape]

Hahaha, GQP who hates socialism.....

That's a false-parallel. Perhaps you need to think more creatively.

You could just as easily say "Ah. At least someone understands that it takes a team to win. I'm glad the system allows for the option of someone sharing the wealth." I know if I was a QB with a big NIL opportunity that I'd say "Hey, come block for me and I'll cut you in on 25% of my NIL revenue." That's smart capitalism, not socialism.

 

[forensicbuzz]

You will just have to sit back and watch. When these guys start getting paid you will realize they are worth more then a free scholarship.

You're missing the point. It seems you're too interested in defending what you think instead of understanding the reality of the situation.

Of course these kids are going to get paid. When there is an avenue for boosters to do something to help their team get a competitive advantage, they're going to do it. It has nothing to do with whether a kid is worth more than a free scholarship. It has everything to do with the irrationality of grown adults wanting their team to be better than everyone else's. So, no. It's not about the kids, it's about the boosters.

 

[Root4GT]

You're missing the point. It seems you're too interested in defending what you think instead of understanding the reality of the situation.

Of course these kids are going to get paid. When there is an avenue for boosters to do something to help their team get a competitive advantage, they're going to do it. It has nothing to do with whether a kid is worth more than a free scholarship. It has everything to do with the irrationality of grown adults wanting their team to be better than everyone else's. So, no. It's not about the kids, it's about the boosters.

Actually it's the free market at work. If a product is valued, in this case a player's ability to help his team win. there is a market for that product. The commodity, in this case the player, will be compensated in accordance for his value.

 

[85Escape]

So, on the average factory teams how many football players do you think will actually benefit from this? Five? Ten? Thirty? I'm guessing that this will really affect only the top elite players. Most of the locker room will still be 'chumps' making the elite guys rich.

 

[SteamWhistle]

You're missing the point. It seems you're too interested in defending what you think instead of understanding the reality of the situation.

Of course these kids are going to get paid. When there is an avenue for boosters to do something to help their team get a competitive advantage, they're going to do it. It has nothing to do with whether a kid is worth more than a free scholarship. It has everything to do with the irrationality of grown adults wanting their team to be better than everyone else's. So, no. It's not about the kids, it's about the boosters.

You’re missing the point. The point isn’t that kids can be paid by boosters, it’s that they can make money of their NIL. Tech fans always cry we don’t have boosters that pay recruits, now players can earn money on their own and we have leveled the playing field. This is not going to be booster driven, especially at Tech. Some of these guys are worth more then a new car or job for their mom. We are talking about potential Brand Deals that would extended into their NFL career, if I player is a projected draft pick all the company’s will be gunning for his signature before he’s even drafted.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Actually it's the free market at work. If a product is valued, in this case a player's ability to help his team win. there is a market for that product. The commodity, in this case the player, will be compensated in accordance for his value.

Right. In a free market, that's how it works. However, in amateur athletics, that's not how it's supposed to work. If the players are going to get "paid" then he's a professional and not eligible to participate in amateur athletics. College athletes are supposed to be amateurs. They need to choose.

 

[forensicbuzz]

You’re missing the point. The point isn’t that kids can be paid by boosters, it’s that they can make money of their NIL. Tech fans always cry we don’t have boosters that pay recruits, now players can earn money on their own and we have leveled the playing field. This is not going to be booster driven, especially at Tech. Some of these guys are worth more then a new car or job for their mom. We are talking about potential Brand Deals that would extended into their NFL career, if I player is a projected draft pick all the company’s will be gunning for his signature before he’s even drafted.

HA! If you don't think this will be booster-driven, then you're more naive than I thought before. Enough said.

 

[SteamWhistle]

HA! If you don't think this will be booster-driven, then you're more naive than I thought before. Enough said.

It is what it is, if you think boosters at UGA can cough up the same money Coke, Chik-Fil-A, Waffle House, Delta and tons of sports brands can for a GT athlete then maybe you are the Naive one.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

All the #21 jerseys GT sold that people still wear to this day. You don’t think Calvin Put butts in the seats? I just don’t understand you’re argument, you have a problem with someone being able to make money? If the kids aren’t what you think they’re worth then they won’t be paid, if they are paid you are wrong. It’s a pretty simple concept, you simply don’t think Gibbs or anyone has the right to attempt to be compensated? That’s very discouraging to hear.

CJ isn't the only player who wore #21. Dwyer drove a lot of sales of that number as well.

 

[SteamWhistle]

CJ isn't the only player who wore #21. Dwyer drove a lot of sales of that number as well.

Not the only gold Russell 21 jersey that sold for 3 years and you still see today. Any Gold GT jerseys you can see or buy at this point is CJ or Reggie Ball.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

It is what it is, if you think boosters at UGA can cough up the same money Coke, Chik-Fil-A, Waffle House, Delta and tons of sports brands can for a GT athlete then maybe you are the Naive one.

The question is WHY would Coke, Chik-Fil-A, Waffle House, Delta and tons of sports brands cough up a ton of money for a GT athlete? There has to be a reasonable ROI in order for them to tender a contract to use their likeness.

 

[GCdaJuiceMan]

I'm really enjoying this discussion. It brings a lot of questions to the table because it concerns a brand we love, and a sport we love. I have no idea how this thing plays out, such as many of you, but I do think we(Tech) are trying to prepare ourselves the best we can. That* much is clear.

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

So, on the average factory teams how many football players do you think will actually benefit from this? Five? Ten? Thirty? I'm guessing that this will really affect only the top elite players. Most of the locker room will still be 'chumps' making the elite guys rich.

IMO, this is what will eventually drive the 75% clause. Stud RBs will opt to let a school take a portion (up to 75%) to split later with the OL etc...

 

[SteamWhistle]

The question is WHY would Coke, Chik-Fil-A, Waffle House, Delta and tons of sports brands cough up a ton of money for a GT athlete? There has to be a reasonable ROI in order for them to tender a contract to use their likeness.

For a long time commitment with a potential NFL player. I’m not sure if you noticed but Raising Canes chicken sponsored like 7 guys who were drafted in the first round this past year. They all posed with Raising Canes as their official meal of their draft day/ draft party.

 

[Southpawmac]

First, yes people bought #21 jerseys (probably all Tech fans). These are people who would have bought some other number if not #21. No, I don't think Calvin had much effect on the number of fans in the stands. Yes, these kids will get paid because they always have. This just makes it easier to cheat, and they will cheat.

Second, if you truly believe what you're writing, you're naive.

Third, there's nothing wrong with your opinion (that 30 years won't fix.)

That’s not how marketing and sales works. There is a reason jerseys were sold in the number of the most popular player before the NIL lawsuit and why NFL teams don’t sell generic #1 jerseys since “people will buy them anyways”. People buy things that have meaning to them. I for one bought a Calvin jersey and the only jersey I’ve bought since the change is a #8 Thomas replica. I love wearing jerseys to games. I’ve got six Falcons jerseys and I’ve got two hawks jerseys. All are specifically of players that enjoyed watching. I don’t just buy them and I sure as hell wouldn’t buy six Falcons jerseys that were all generic #1.

Thinking that Calvin didn’t put butts in the seats is incredibly foolish as well. No one is saying he was the sole reason for every single season ticket that was sold, but to believe that were weren’t people that decided to buy season tickets because of him is ridiculous. I guarantee he caused sidewalk fans to buy tickets as well. Watching Calvin in person was a marvel and people bought tickets to see him play.

 

[85Escape]

That’s not how marketing and sales works. There is a reason jerseys were sold in the number of the most popular player before the NIL lawsuit and why NFL teams don’t sell generic #1 jerseys since “people will buy them anyways”. People buy things that have meaning to them. I for one bought a Calvin jersey and the only jersey I’ve bought since the change is a #8 Thomas replica. I love wearing jerseys to games. I’ve got six Falcons jerseys and I’ve got two hawks jerseys. All are specifically of players that enjoyed watching. I don’t just buy them and I sure as hell wouldn’t buy six Falcons jerseys that were all generic #1.

Thinking that Calvin didn’t put butts in the seats is incredibly foolish as well. No one is saying he was the sole reason for every single season ticket that was sold, but to believe that were weren’t people that decided to buy season tickets because of him is ridiculous. I guarantee he caused sidewalk fans to buy tickets as well. Watching Calvin in person was a marvel and people bought tickets to see him play.

Generalizations generally don't work

At best we might say "That's not how all marketing and sales work."

I, for one, wanted a Braves jersey a couple of years ago. I didn't want a specific player jersey because I KNEW they'd likely be gone in three years or so. I looked through the jersey's and picked the one I thought had the best chance of not being irrelevant in two years. I have no desire to see my $75 be relinquished to the basement closet when the player sells out to the Mets.
With transfers in college now I think at least some people will still root for the team, and not get caught up in our society's current cult-of-personality/star-worship syndrome. I root for teams, not players...who I think are all pretty much mercenaries now.

 

[Lotta Booze]

Well, how about offering your top ten recruits $10,000 each or, if you are Notre Dame, Bama or A&M make it $25,000 each?

Do you think this doesn't already happen?

 

[Augusta_Jacket]

For a long time commitment with a potential NFL player. I’m not sure if you noticed but Raising Canes chicken sponsored like 7 guys who were drafted in the first round this past year. They all posed with Raising Canes as their official meal of their draft day/ draft party.

Oh, don't get me wrong, companies would gladly pay nickels for the possibility of future success that will earn them real dollars., but outside of the factories, few college athletes are going to command significant deals.

 

[Lotta Booze]

The question is WHY would Coke, Chik-Fil-A, Waffle House, Delta and tons of sports brands cough up a ton of money for a GT athlete? There has to be a reasonable ROI in order for them to tender a contract to use their likeness.

They don't need to "cough up a ton of money". A little bit of money can be a lot of money to a college kid.