Midweek v Georgia State

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It sounds like someone has a relative or someone close to them that feels like they were done dirty by Tech. Coaches sometimes have to make tough decisions and cut someone if they don't feel like they can contribute more than some of their teammates and unfortunately sometimes injuries are part of that equation. Not sure what happened in your case but I have never heard anything like that from former players about this staff or the previous one.
Shanna has been making posts along these lines for 2 or 3 years now. Usually the posts are a week or two after the season ends and we have been eliminated. They always revolve around the same theme. We treat our players poorly if they aren't obvious stars, and we even treat our coaches poorly, causing them to want to quit also. The posts usually come in groups of about 6-8 posts, and then the poster disappears for months on end until something negative happens.
 

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Shanna has been making posts along these lines for 2 or 3 years now. Usually the posts are a week or two after the season ends and we have been eliminated. They always revolve around the same theme. We treat our players poorly if they aren't obvious stars, and we even treat our coaches poorly, causing them to want to quit also. The posts usually come in groups of about 6-8 posts, and then the poster disappears for months on end until something negative happens.
FWIW, none of the guys that I know were stars and none of them have had anything bad to say about this staff.

CDH got mixed reviews, but nothing too damning to make them want to leave (nor where they ever asked to leave).
 

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FWIW, none of the guys that I know were stars and none of them have had anything bad to say about this staff.

CDH got mixed reviews, but nothing too damning to make them want to leave (nor where they ever asked to leave).

I wonder what @Shanna would think about Wes Johnson who has churned every freshman he has ever recruited. The only player who hasn’t transferred out since he arrived is Tre Phelps.
 

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Agree. My feeling so far this season has been this team will have a hard time living up to the hype. They certainly could... but it's not going to be easy. Last night affirms that. ...& the hype is coming from all directions (fans, pundents, etc). Hopefully, the team isn't "into" all that.


Takes losing to appreciate the winning...

... otherwise, you're just a miserable obnoxious Bama or Dawg football fan. Those people are generally miserable, I must assume.
As the old saying goes, pitching and defense win baseball games. Good pitching stifles good hitting >90% of the time.
 

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Just my opinion ... and probably not a popular one from most angles.

I feel pretty strongly... folks should restrain from sharing too much about our program based on their proximity. I don't care if it is negative stuff or positive. If you are 'inside' the program ... and I'll admit I can't strictly define that. I know it when I see it ... you should really check what you choose to share. It is human nature to "correct" the record or even elevate your status with this kind of information. But I'd encourage anyone with no kidding real-time (or very recent) info to just not put it out on this (or similar) forums. In nearly every case, you're (at a minimum) breaking some trust with someone else inside the program. Of course, only you would know that. And in many other cases (injuries... infighting ... coach's internal discussions, etc) you likely don't have all the info AND/OR you're hurting the program in some way.

Nobody... even those with access... knows the full picture. College athletics is a business and cutthroat... and quite dynamic. What we know about last season, last week, and yesterday does not necessarily apply today or the future.

I'm confident many folks inside pay attention to this forum and choose not to participate by posting stuff. If you're reading this... you are STRONG and I appreciate it. Keep up the good work.

GO JACKETS!!

For emphasis... that's just my 2 cents. Others can disagree and I still respect that. I think I get it.
 

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Just my opinion ... and probably not a popular one from most angles.

I feel pretty strongly... folks should restrain from sharing too much about our program based on their proximity. I don't care if it is negative stuff or positive. If you are 'inside' the program ... and I'll admit I can't strictly define that. I know it when I see it ... you should really check what you choose to share. It is human nature to "correct" the record or even elevate your status with this kind of information. But I'd encourage anyone with no kidding real-time (or very recent) info to just not put it out on this (or similar) forums. In nearly every case, you're (at a minimum) breaking some trust with someone else inside the program. Of course, only you would know that. And in many other cases (injuries... infighting ... coach's internal discussions, etc) you likely don't have all the info AND/OR you're hurting the program in some way.

Nobody... even those with access... knows the full picture. College athletics is a business and cutthroat... and quite dynamic. What we know about last season, last week, and yesterday does not necessarily apply today or the future.

I'm confident many folks inside pay attention to this forum and choose not to participate by posting stuff. If you're reading this... you are STRONG and I appreciate it. Keep up the good work.

GO JACKETS!!

For emphasis... that's just my 2 cents. Others can disagree and I still respect that. I think I get it.
I will disagree to agree yet be free to agree when others might disagree, or something more agreeable to be disagreeable about.
 

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Just my opinion ... and probably not a popular one from most angles.

I feel pretty strongly... folks should restrain from sharing too much about our program based on their proximity. I don't care if it is negative stuff or positive. If you are 'inside' the program ... and I'll admit I can't strictly define that. I know it when I see it ... you should really check what you choose to share. It is human nature to "correct" the record or even elevate your status with this kind of information. But I'd encourage anyone with no kidding real-time (or very recent) info to just not put it out on this (or similar) forums. In nearly every case, you're (at a minimum) breaking some trust with someone else inside the program. Of course, only you would know that. And in many other cases (injuries... infighting ... coach's internal discussions, etc) you likely don't have all the info AND/OR you're hurting the program in some way.

Nobody... even those with access... knows the full picture. College athletics is a business and cutthroat... and quite dynamic. What we know about last season, last week, and yesterday does not necessarily apply today or the future.

I'm confident many folks inside pay attention to this forum and choose not to participate by posting stuff. If you're reading this... you are STRONG and I appreciate it. Keep up the good work.

GO JACKETS!!

For emphasis... that's just my 2 cents. Others can disagree and I still respect that. I think I get it.
Meh. I get where you're coming from, but it's a message board. I take anything anybody says regarding "private" stuff like that with a grain of salt. Especially when it's negative. I would suggest we all do the same.

Regarding positive stuff past players or "insiders" have shared. I don't think there's a problem with that. Unless they've explicitly told you not to share, I think most would consider themselves ambassadors of the program and enjoy sharing positivity regarding the program. Everybody that I know that's ever been involved with the program is beyond excited with the program right now and is basically screaming it from the rooftops. It's a great time to be a Jacket past or present.
 

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GT has no lefty pitcher throwing 95-98. Shadek and Buursema are both RHP.
That's not what the original poster said though. You really need to work on reading comprehension if you're going to come in here and start talking **** to everyone.
 

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That's not what the original poster said though. You really need to work on reading comprehension if you're going to come in here and start talking **** to everyone.
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He went to Chamblee high school so Tech most definitely knew about him. I’d say he is more 94-95 with consistent command. He did hit 97 a handful of times, but who knows we may or may not have pursued him.
If he can find the plate thats major league closer velocity. He could have a very lucrative future.
 

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Meh. I get where you're coming from, but it's a message board. I take anything anybody says regarding "private" stuff like that with a grain of salt. Especially when it's negative. I would suggest we all do the same.

Regarding positive stuff past players or "insiders" have shared. I don't think there's a problem with that. Unless they've explicitly told you not to share, I think most would consider themselves ambassadors of the program and enjoy sharing positivity regarding the program. Everybody that I know that's ever been involved with the program is beyond excited with the program right now and is basically screaming it from the rooftops. It's a great time to be a Jacket past or present.
Ok. I have no problem with this. I worded my comment poorly in that regard. I didn't mean anything positive... I meant stuff that compromised trust or exposed info that could cause other issues.
 

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I will disagree to agree yet be free to agree when others might disagree, or something more agreeable to be disagreeable about.
I'm not opposed to disagreeing with your agreement to disagree whenever free to agree or disagree. However, I draw the line and disagree with the continued lack of positive non-use or use of double negatives when not making a point. I mean if we are not going to not properly not use the Queen's English in disagreements about whether to agree or disagree, then this just does not make us unsure about our lack of certainty in whether our disagreements are agreeable. Or not. Sounds like something Morrisey wrote or did not write and sang or did not sing. ;)
 

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He looked great last night. However, it's baseball. For one, kids have nights. He definitely has talent, but I'd be willing to bet that was the pitching performance of his life. The three pitchers we brought in, plus the 2 we lost to the draft, are all great and ranked much higher than him. Rankings aren't everything, but neither is one night of baseball.



The only arm that was worrisome to me last night was Campbell. He's usually pretty reliable, but did not look good at all last night.

My concern, and it was one last season too, is that as a staff we get (often times WAY) ahead in counts and then we leave pitches over the plate when we don't need to. The hitter is in desperation mode. Don't give him anything getting too much of the plate. Then we when do throw something off the plate too often it's a non-competitive pitch. I'm not sure if that's coaching or just bad execution. I'd think it's mostly execution, but it seems to happen with most of the guys.

Overall, I'm still VERY confident in this staff. Remember that this was a midweek game. We threw a lot of guys and we had 3 errors. Shake it off. It's baseball, you aren't going to win them all.
Cooper Lewis is a true Freahman. He’s appeared in 3 games, all in relief and has pitched 5 innings and hasn’t given up a hit or a run (that a BA of .000 and an ERA of 0.00 for those of you keeping score at home). He’s walked 4 (3 of them last night in his third inning against us) and struck out 10 (4 of the 6 outs he got last night, several of them looking). He’s done everything they asked of him so far. Color me impressed. At this point I would say I sure wouldn’t mind having him on OUR roster ……
 

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He looked great last night. However, it's baseball. For one, kids have nights. He definitely has talent, but I'd be willing to bet that was the pitching performance of his life. The three pitchers we brought in, plus the 2 we lost to the draft, are all great and ranked much higher than him. Rankings aren't everything, but neither is one night of baseball.



The only arm that was worrisome to me last night was Campbell. He's usually pretty reliable, but did not look good at all last night.

My concern, and it was one last season too, is that as a staff we get (often times WAY) ahead in counts and then we leave pitches over the plate when we don't need to. The hitter is in desperation mode. Don't give him anything getting too much of the plate. Then we when do throw something off the plate too often it's a non-competitive pitch. I'm not sure if that's coaching or just bad execution. I'd think it's mostly execution, but it seems to happen with most of the guys.

Overall, I'm still VERY confident in this staff. Remember that this was a midweek game. We threw a lot of guys and we had 3 errors. Shake it off. It's baseball, you aren't going to win them all.
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. His performance Tuesday night means more to me than any rankings. And I have not seen anybody we have thrown this year so far that can match the talent he displayed, throwing 96-98 and hitting his spots.
He is from Brookhaven and was ranked top 50 in the state, and was on the AD's honor roll in the fall of 2025. Im not trying to throw shade on anybody. But if I were associated with our program, i certainly would be curious how this guy slipped through the crack to see if we need to adjust our recruitment protocol, or maybe not if there was a good reason(s) other than rankings why he went to school a few miles down the road. If we want to get to Omaha, this kind of talent is needed for sure.
 
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Cooper Lewis is a true Freahman. He’s appeared in 3 games, all in relief and has pitched 5 innings and hasn’t given up a hit or a run (that a BA of .000 and an ERA of 0.00 for those of you keeping score at home). He’s walked 4 (3 of them last night in his third inning against us) and struck out 10 (4 of the 6 outs he got last night, several of them looking). He’s done everything they asked of him so far. Color me impressed. At this point I would say I sure wouldn’t mind having him on OUR roster ……
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. His performance Tuesday night means more to me than any rankings. And I have not seen anybody we have thrown this year so far that can match the talent he displayed, throwing 96-98 and hitting his spots.
He is from Brookhaven and was ranked top 50 in the state, and was on the AD's honor roll in the fall of 2025. Im not trying to throw shade on anybody. But if I were associated with our program, i certainly would be curious how this guy slipped through the crack to see if we need to adjust our recruitment protocol, or maybe not if there was a good reason(s) other than rankings why he went to school a few miles down the road. If we want to get to Omaha, this kind of talent is needed for sure.

I'm not saying that he's not good. I'm just saying if you follow high school and college baseball even moderately closely you see performances like that decently often and you're like "damn, who is THAT guy?" Then you follow them for a while and you come to realize that you saw them at the peak and not their norm. Hell, if you've followed Tech baseball for any decent period of time you'd have seen performances like this many times over the past 20 years only to never hear of the guy again. Could he be the next Skenes (not an exact parallel, Skenes was originally a catcher at Air Force but was ranked similarly to this kid out of high school, who obviously had a cannon)? There's a chance. But more often than not, they don't end up being that guy.

I know his stats. Chamblee HS is 15 min from my house and I follow high school baseball pretty closely - see all my recruiting posts. I'm familiar. He had some very good games in hs and travel ball too. I hope he does well. Nothing I said was meant to be anything against him. He's clearly got a lot of talent. It was more of saying that it's very much an overreaction to act like he's the next big thing and we don't recruit pitchers of his caliber - which was what was insinuated earlier in this thread. Like you said, he's thrown in 3 games - 5 innings in college so far. That is the definition of a small sample size. The sample size yall have seen him is probably even smaller - my guess would be 2 innings? All on one night? Last night to be more specific? Based on the larger sample sizes of his hs and travel ball vs the guys that we signed, I think everybody on this thread would chose the guys we took. Does that mean that he's not good or that he can't develop in superstar? No. I hope he is and he does. Hell, I hope he does and that he transfers here.

Just crazy to take focus off the positives of our team and focus on what we don't have in yall's opinion.
 

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Must be why we "cut" him...

One night makes or breaks guys...

(Sarcasm in case that isn't clear)

I think he just got the @Shanna curse. Poster spouts off about how great Chicoli is doing only to have a poor performance 8 hours later. Chicolis career is now finished..
 

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I'm not saying that he's not good. I'm just saying if you follow high school and college baseball even moderately closely you see performances like that decently often and you're like "damn, who is THAT guy?" Then you follow them for a while and you come to realize that you saw them at the peak and not their norm. Hell, if you've followed Tech baseball for any decent period of time you'd have seen performances like this many times over the past 20 years only to never hear of the guy again. Could he be the next Skenes (not an exact parallel, Skenes was originally a catcher at Air Force but was ranked similarly to this kid out of high school, who obviously had a cannon)? There's a chance. But more often than not, they don't end up being that guy.

I know his stats. Chamblee HS is 15 min from my house and I follow high school baseball pretty closely - see all my recruiting posts. I'm familiar. He had some very good games in hs and travel ball too. I hope he does well. Nothing I said was meant to be anything against him. He's clearly got a lot of talent. It was more of saying that it's very much an overreaction to act like he's the next big thing and we don't recruit pitchers of his caliber - which was what was insinuated earlier in this thread. Like you said, he's thrown in 3 games - 5 innings in college so far. That is the definition of a small sample size. The sample size yall have seen him is probably even smaller - my guess would be 2 innings? All on one night? Last night to be more specific? Based on the larger sample sizes of his hs and travel ball vs the guys that we signed, I think everybody on this thread would chose the guys we took. Does that mean that he's not good or that he can't develop in superstar? No. I hope he is and he does. Hell, I hope he does and that he transfers here.

Just crazy to take focus off the positives of our team and focus on what we don't have in yall's opinion.
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