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<blockquote data-quote="smathis30" data-source="post: 401700" data-attributes="member: 1803"><p>Issue with the FBI and youtube comments is predominately due process. Although there is a ton of suspicion, there is only so much you can do before an actual crime is committed. Its a weird blend of trying to maintain people's rights while also trying to restrict people's rights to things they honestly don't deserve. Its easy in hindsight to say where the line betweeen knowing a lot and knowing enough to do something is, but if these people still live with family that has access to weapons, then its a moot point. </p><p></p><p>I'm honestly most curious about 1. how the uber driver that he got a ride to the school in allowed him to get in with all those bags, guns, and bullet vest and then 2. get past everyone</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As to this, how many sub machine guns have been used in school shootings since they were banned? Like one?</p><p></p><p> The biggest issue, going back to what i said above this, is trying to get warrants for people that are suspicious of doing a crime that haven't actually done one yet. Trying to draw the line at where due process exists, as when that line can get erased and people suspciouis of crimes can get arrested. when does it go away? Who is to say that a repbulican government can arrest democrats for calling them idiots on reddit on suspicoun of terrorism or democrats on facebook for saying the republican party should cease to exist on facebook under a republican presidency? </p><p></p><p>So what do i actually want to see from this</p><p></p><p>Can we please just open up the doors for the CDC to do research? Universities can do it as well, but it would make sense for a government agency to do it if we want any government action. So many questions that we could get answers to, especially if we believe its a mental health thing and not a gun thing. </p><p></p><p>Things i want answers to from their research: </p><p></p><p>Why does Monatana have such a high gun ownership rate but such a low school shooting rate? And vice versa for other states that have lower ownership and higher deaths?</p><p>Why are most mass shootings done disproportionately by white people </p><p>Why are AR-15's the disproportionate weapon of choice in school shootings? (3% of ownership, 47% of school shootings)</p><p>Why are most of the people inbetween the ages of 16-25 and male?</p><p>Why is the U.S. the only nation that seems to regularly has school shootings (yes europe has other kinds of shootings/bombs, but rarely at actual schools)</p><p>What, if anything, can we do to prevent this? </p><p>Would adding retired/unemployed military to act as guards help? or would this encourage mob attacks and access to free guns?</p><p>How would we fund that? (or the research to the CDC in general?)</p><p></p><p>I agree that the FBI has been incompetent in many ways (This trump investigation has been going on way too long (and i might post my other thoughts in the other thread now that i have an ounce of free time), and a forwarded email could have prevented this? Stop sucking at your jobs yall)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smathis30, post: 401700, member: 1803"] Issue with the FBI and youtube comments is predominately due process. Although there is a ton of suspicion, there is only so much you can do before an actual crime is committed. Its a weird blend of trying to maintain people's rights while also trying to restrict people's rights to things they honestly don't deserve. Its easy in hindsight to say where the line betweeen knowing a lot and knowing enough to do something is, but if these people still live with family that has access to weapons, then its a moot point. I'm honestly most curious about 1. how the uber driver that he got a ride to the school in allowed him to get in with all those bags, guns, and bullet vest and then 2. get past everyone As to this, how many sub machine guns have been used in school shootings since they were banned? Like one? The biggest issue, going back to what i said above this, is trying to get warrants for people that are suspicious of doing a crime that haven't actually done one yet. Trying to draw the line at where due process exists, as when that line can get erased and people suspciouis of crimes can get arrested. when does it go away? Who is to say that a repbulican government can arrest democrats for calling them idiots on reddit on suspicoun of terrorism or democrats on facebook for saying the republican party should cease to exist on facebook under a republican presidency? So what do i actually want to see from this Can we please just open up the doors for the CDC to do research? Universities can do it as well, but it would make sense for a government agency to do it if we want any government action. So many questions that we could get answers to, especially if we believe its a mental health thing and not a gun thing. Things i want answers to from their research: Why does Monatana have such a high gun ownership rate but such a low school shooting rate? And vice versa for other states that have lower ownership and higher deaths? Why are most mass shootings done disproportionately by white people Why are AR-15's the disproportionate weapon of choice in school shootings? (3% of ownership, 47% of school shootings) Why are most of the people inbetween the ages of 16-25 and male? Why is the U.S. the only nation that seems to regularly has school shootings (yes europe has other kinds of shootings/bombs, but rarely at actual schools) What, if anything, can we do to prevent this? Would adding retired/unemployed military to act as guards help? or would this encourage mob attacks and access to free guns? How would we fund that? (or the research to the CDC in general?) I agree that the FBI has been incompetent in many ways (This trump investigation has been going on way too long (and i might post my other thoughts in the other thread now that i have an ounce of free time), and a forwarded email could have prevented this? Stop sucking at your jobs yall) [/QUOTE]
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