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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 2897" data-source="post: 401379"><p>You’re just being silly.</p><p></p><p>All developed countries around the world have seen incredible decreases in gun deaths in the last century. Australia hasn’t had a mass shooting, but gun murders overall showed no impact from removing a third of gun shootings from circulation. If there are 100 gun murders, does it really matter if they came from 100 shootings versus 25? I think that is a crazy argument.</p><p></p><p>Back to Germany and the UK, we saw tremendous decreases in gun murders too. And the number of guns here has ballooned. So by that logic, we need even more guns.</p><p></p><p>Great Britain does define some violent crimes differently than we do, but there are still massively more over there than here.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is that there is no proof that banning guns decreases shootings. There is evidence that violent crime increases.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think what we need is an armed resource officer at each school (not that crazy talk about teachers).</p><p></p><p>I think someone like the CDC should study mental health and guns both and make recommendations. I don’t see any downside to that, and an independent non-political agency making science-based recommendations can’t possibly hurt.</p><p></p><p>One thing some of those other countries “benefit” from is no 2nd amendment, so they can ban guns and had many many fewer in circulation to begin with. We don’t have that luxury. But at the same time, we shouldn’t be letting people make fun of us or talk down to us. Nearly all of those people have massive violent crime epedimics that are much worse than losing 20-25 kids in schools getting shot. Neither is a joyful conversation, but it’s a lot easier for Denmark to be holier than thou when they never had many guns in the first place and only 5,000,000 residents. That’s like trying to police 1 single city and a completely different situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 2897, post: 401379"] You’re just being silly. All developed countries around the world have seen incredible decreases in gun deaths in the last century. Australia hasn’t had a mass shooting, but gun murders overall showed no impact from removing a third of gun shootings from circulation. If there are 100 gun murders, does it really matter if they came from 100 shootings versus 25? I think that is a crazy argument. Back to Germany and the UK, we saw tremendous decreases in gun murders too. And the number of guns here has ballooned. So by that logic, we need even more guns. Great Britain does define some violent crimes differently than we do, but there are still massively more over there than here. The bottom line is that there is no proof that banning guns decreases shootings. There is evidence that violent crime increases. Personally, I think what we need is an armed resource officer at each school (not that crazy talk about teachers). I think someone like the CDC should study mental health and guns both and make recommendations. I don’t see any downside to that, and an independent non-political agency making science-based recommendations can’t possibly hurt. One thing some of those other countries “benefit” from is no 2nd amendment, so they can ban guns and had many many fewer in circulation to begin with. We don’t have that luxury. But at the same time, we shouldn’t be letting people make fun of us or talk down to us. Nearly all of those people have massive violent crime epedimics that are much worse than losing 20-25 kids in schools getting shot. Neither is a joyful conversation, but it’s a lot easier for Denmark to be holier than thou when they never had many guns in the first place and only 5,000,000 residents. That’s like trying to police 1 single city and a completely different situation. [/QUOTE]
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