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wvGT11

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Very good discussion about the officials and replays.
He talks about how the officials did take a look at the targeting play, and the tipped ball. Was told it was "clear" by the conference booth. And he talked about how he could have challenged, but that he knew he would lose the challenge being that they were on the road against opposing conference refs .
On the tipped ball / pi call, he knew right away by looking at the players, it was tipped.

See to me, if coaches even know the odds are stacked to throw a challenge, then we need to fix the bias.
 

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Very good discussion about the officials and replays.
He talks about how the officials did take a look at the targeting play, and the tipped ball. Was told it was "clear" by the conference booth. And he talked about how he could have challenged, but that he knew he would lose the challenge being that they were on the road against opposing conference refs .
On the tipped ball / pi call, he knew right away by looking at the players, it was tipped.

See to me, if coaches even know the odds are stacked to throw a challenge, then we need to fix the bias.
Two calls that either end the game both went uga way. Rigged is how we term this. All about big money now.
 

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Very good discussion about the officials and replays.
He talks about how the officials did take a look at the targeting play, and the tipped ball. Was told it was "clear" by the conference booth. And he talked about how he could have challenged, but that he knew he would lose the challenge being that they were on the road against opposing conference refs .
On the tipped ball / pi call, he knew right away by looking at the players, it was tipped.

See to me, if coaches even know the odds are stacked to throw a challenge, then we need to fix the bias.
wow.
 

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Two calls that either end the game both went uga way. Rigged is how we term this. All about big money now.
^^^^^
THIS IN SPADES!
And didn’t review it for all the viewers to see which is normal practice. Never announced it was reviewed for targeting or tipped ball per normal procedure. This game was absolutely rigged by the $EC/ABC.
 
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bke1984

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Very good discussion about the officials and replays.
He talks about how the officials did take a look at the targeting play, and the tipped ball. Was told it was "clear" by the conference booth. And he talked about how he could have challenged, but that he knew he would lose the challenge being that they were on the road against opposing conference refs .
On the tipped ball / pi call, he knew right away by looking at the players, it was tipped.

See to me, if coaches even know the odds are stacked to throw a challenge, then we need to fix the bias.
He should have 100% challenged the targeting play if allowed. Didn’t we have two timeouts? That essentially wins the game or at least leaves you no worse off. Strange decision.
 

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He should have 100% challenged the targeting play if allowed. Didn’t we have two timeouts? That essentially wins the game or at least leaves you no worse off. Strange decision.

It wouldn’t have been overturned
 

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He should have 100% challenged the targeting play if allowed. Didn’t we have two timeouts? That essentially wins the game or at least leaves you no worse off. Strange decision.
That’s the one to challenge. Then the whole world sees the SECheat on video. He said it got “cleared,” but I don’t know how.
 

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He should have 100% challenged the targeting play if allowed. Didn’t we have two timeouts? That essentially wins the game or at least leaves you no worse off. Strange decision.
I would have preferred challenging the tipped pass. (targeting is somewhat nebulous these days. The Efford call and reversal in the NCSU game is proof).However a tipped pass is not.

I want to ask this question. I was watching with a group so the sound was off. There was discussion about whether or not it was PI but our group did not notice the tip as the ball did not drastically seem to alter its course.were the announcers discussing this or not? If you saw it live, did you think it was tipped in real time?
 

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I would have preferred challenging the tipped pass. (targeting is somewhat nebulous these days. The Efford call and reversal in the NCSU game is proof).However a tipped pass is not.

I want to ask this question. I was watching with a group so the sound was off. There was discussion about whether or not it was PI but our group did not notice the tip as the ball did not drastically seem to alter its course.were the announcers discussing this or not? If you saw it live, did you think it was tipped in real time?
One of the announcers said that he thought it was tipped, but he didn’t follow up.
 

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I would have preferred challenging the tipped pass. (targeting is somewhat nebulous these days. The Efford call and reversal in the NCSU game is proof).However a tipped pass is not.

I want to ask this question. I was watching with a group so the sound was off. There was discussion about whether or not it was PI but our group did not notice the tip as the ball did not drastically seem to alter its course.were the announcers discussing this or not? If you saw it live, did you think it was tipped in real time?

From what I remember seeing in the replay, the ball had a perfect spiral out of Beck’s hand and past the linemen, but after passing the next Tech player, the ball started to wobble like it had been tipped.
 

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From what I remember seeing in the replay, the ball had a perfect spiral out of Beck’s hand and past the linemen, but after passing the next Tech player, the ball started to wobble like it had been tipped.
This. It was perfect out of his hand but just a slight wobble after the tip. It was just a slight graze.
 

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Sounds like this was the one to challenge. They usually have good camera angles for this and a change in ball trajectory is noticeable under review conditions. this would have been the one to draw attention to referee bias or incompetence, moreso than the targeting one. IMO.
 

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It wouldn’t have been overturned

Probably not but make em "review" it anyways. Mightve caught someone with a crisis of conscience and decide to do the right thing.

One of the announcers said that he thought it was tipped, but he didn’t follow up.

'They' probably gave him a stern look off-camera ....

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I would have preferred challenging the tipped pass. (targeting is somewhat nebulous these days. The Efford call and reversal in the NCSU game is proof).However a tipped pass is not.

I want to ask this question. I was watching with a group so the sound was off. There was discussion about whether or not it was PI but our group did not notice the tip as the ball did not drastically seem to alter its course.were the announcers discussing this or not? If you saw it live, did you think it was tipped in real time?
I agree. To me, you have a better chance winning a tipped ball challenge than a targeting challenge. IMO, they would have pulled the “he hit him with the crown of the helmet but never launched so it’s clean” line that has been overused this year. While I think we could have won if the targeting gets overturned, I’m 100% sure we would have won had the tipped ball PI been rightly overturned. At that point, we get the ball on our own 4 with 8:45 left in the game up 20-6. We had just kicked a FG after an 18 play, 90 yard, 10:36 death march that chewed up over half of the third quarter and a minute of the 4th. Their D was gassed and momentum was completely on our side. We would have snuffed out their best drive of the night and completely silenced that stadium. It would have been the nail in the coffin. Even in the best chance scenario for them, they get the ball around our 45 after a punt with about 6 minutes left still down 14.
 

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I thought the announcers said the players were calling for a tipped ball but that they didn’t see it.

They should’ve shown more than just one replay to look for it, though.
 
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